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Archnoob111

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Registered: 2021-05-02

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How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

I have just started using Arch (BTW), and would like to keep using XOrg as it is what I am used to using.

I currently have both installed and running the command

 sudo pacman -R wayland

gives this

checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by freerdp
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by gst-plugins-bad
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by gtk3
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by gtk4
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by libva
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by mesa
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by webkit2gtk
:: removing wayland breaks dependency 'wayland' required by wpebackend-fdo

What needs to be removed and kept to not break things?

CarbonChauvinist

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Registered: 2012-06-16

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

Wayland is a dependency of gnome-shell/gtk{3,4}, can't be removed. If you don't want to use a wayland session just select the xorg selection from gdm.

~ $ pactree -r -d 1 wayland
wayland
├─bemenu-wlroots
├─foot-git
├─freerdp
├─gst-plugins-bad
├─gtk3
├─gtk4
├─libva
├─mesa
├─mpv
├─swaybg
├─vulkan-intel
├─vulkan-tools
├─wayland-utils
├─webkit2gtk
├─weston
├─wev
├─wl-clipboard
└─wpebackend-fdo

Last edited by CarbonChauvinist (2021-05-02 18:41:15)

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Archnoob111

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

I am already using Xorg and its all working fine.
I wanted to have wayland removed because bloat

If there is no way to clean it off, I will have to live with it.

WorMzy

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

You might be able to rebuild the gnome packages without the wayland dependency, but if you're that worried about bloat, why are you running gnome in the first place?

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Erotaku

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Registered: 2017-07-08

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

but if you're that worried about bloat, why are you running gnome in the first place?

I want print and frame that quote on my wall.

Archnoob111

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

Well, to be honest, I don't know better, I have been VMing arch for a while and finally installed it on my drive.

Gnome seemed useful.

I understand it is offtopic but what would you recommend for a good desktop while not being too bloated (KDE is a no - I gave it a solid try and didn't like it)

Erotaku

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

That really depends on what sort of priorities and needs you have for a DE.

If you are after relative minimalism and don't mind tinkering, adding and configuring a few things here and there? XFCE
If you want something more ready and complete out of the box + modern design, at the expense of the above minimalism? Cinnamon. Bonus: if you are coming from windows, then it has a similar design and navigation feel. It's also still far less bloated than gnome.
Middle of the road solution between the above two options, where you get less bloat but also looks more modern? Mate. I am personally not a fan though. I would say XFCE is just better as you can really change things up and configure it the way you want more. Otherwise, Cinnamon is probably the best out-of-box experience for a DE (aside from KDE).

There are obviously 10 times more minimal options with pretty much 0 bloat. But now you will start heading into the window manager territory. Which is very advanced for a newbie, albeit still viable if you are determined to learn and put time into it.

Hope that helps.

Last edited by Erotaku (2021-05-02 21:22:03)

Archnoob111

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Registered: 2021-05-02

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Re: How can I remove Gnome Wayland and just keep Gnome XOrg

Thanks, I'll look into it, I have been using Linux for quite a while but stuck with Debian derivatives