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dave1953

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Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Freefilesync Arch Linux .

Following recent Arch updates, Freefilesync suddenly doesn’t work correctly (any version).

Set up and administered in normal manner, but as soon as the start button is pressed for the synchronisation the program freezes up and crashes the system meaning any button presses, key presses do not work; however the cursor still works fine! But only the cursor. Frustrating. Freefilesync works perfectly on any Debian based system (I’ve tried several) but will not work on Arch or any Arch based system so there appears to be ‘something’ in the latest batch of updates causing this problem.

NoSavvy

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Just updated to ver.11.11 and no problems here. Tried 3 different backup/sync jobs.

Last edited by NoSavvy (2021-06-11 15:56:58)

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Thanks, that is VERY interesting. Thank you for that feedback.

NoSavvy

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Just for the hell of it, I've now tried two other installations on Arch flavoured systems as well as on my pure clean Arch. All installed and ran with no problems. Program is downloaded and installed direct from the FreeFileSync site.  Are you installing the AUR version ?
Hope you succeed.

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Thanks I can only believe the issue may be caused by third party infuence e.g. 4300ge processor as I installed FFS from aur and the freefile site version on 3 different Arch or Arch based installations with same results. So as others have reported no issues it must be something to do with my rig.

Ryzen 4300ge, Gigabyte b450m gaming board, 16 meg 3200 good quality ram,  Samsung 970 evo nvme with 6tb storage disk.

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Cannot get ffs to work correctly using Arch or even other Arch based xfce systems. Have now installed a debian based xfce system (Mint) with no problems whatsoever. Whilst using Mint have loaded a USB live disk with Manjaro xfce and ffs exhibited exactly the same behaviour. Likewise pure Arch and Archman which I also tried. So my only conclusion is it’s something to do with Arch combined with AMD 4300ge as I never had any issues with my ryzen 1300x and nvidia gt710 before I upgraded.

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Interesting. Since I’ve upgraded my processor I cannot get Freefilesync to work correctly. Others have tried with no problems on their systems but mine won’t run Freefilesync correctly. I’ve tried pure Arch xfce, Manjaro xfce with the same result. The program runs but when the ‘start’ button is clicked the whole system crashes with no acknowledgement from any keypress or mouse click; however the cursor still moves across the screen normally. The Freefilesync program works absolutely perfectly on any Debian based system under the same conditions as long as I have at least kernel 5.10 installed as a minimum. So - the only conclusion I can draw is there is “something” in Arch or Arch based systems that doesn’t like my setup whereas Debian based systems have no problems with the same setup. Before I recently upgraded the processor everything was fine on ANY installation. Intriguing.

Now - Ryzen 3 4300ge processor with Gigabyte B450m gaming board, very latest BIOS, Samsung 970evo nvme for system, 6tb spinner for data.

Previously Ryzen 3 1300x processor with Asus nvidia gt710 graphics card, the rest all same.

Conclusion - 4300ge + Arch causing problem?

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Now here's proof for you. Downloaded Manjaro xfce 20.2 from the Manjaro archives, loaded and ran FreefileSync latest version whilst using the live usb and - everything works absolutely perfectly, so something or another in between latest Manjaro xfce and the older 20.2 has interfered with the running of FFS. I have to assume this is something within Arch as Arch is exhibiting the same behaviour.

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Mod note: Moving to AUR Issues.

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Have you tested with the freefilesync-bin from aur also ?

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dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Yes same result.

Last edited by dave1953 (2021-06-16 17:35:35)

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Further info - believe this is something to do with 5.12 kernel and my Ryzen 4300ge. Tried Debian SID with 5.10 kernel (LTS?), no problems. When SID automatically upgraded to 5.12 kernel FFS exhibited exactly the same behaviour as Arch (with the same 5.12 kernel). So the obvious solution will be to roll back the kernel until such time as a more permanent solution presents itself.

dave1953

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Re: Freefilesync No Longer Works Correctly After Latest Arch Updates

Update - 5.10 works fine in any live usb environment whatsoever. Also works fine in debian based distros, such but SID, Arch, Manjaro, Elementary etc etc once updated to latest packages FFS freezes at the same point in the usage procedure irrespective of 5.10 or 5.12 kernel so SOMETHING within the large number of update packages after installation is causing the problem. Stress that, apart from Pure Arch (for obvious reasons) every other live usb FFS works absolutely fine then still works fine upon installation UNTIL the updates are installed, then it fails.