Arch XCFE high temperature on Asus laptop

tcomarchetti · 2021-07-01 19:21:47

Hi guys,
Since i've installed Arch (XFCE) on my VivoBook_ASUS Laptop X505ZA_F505, temperature is high (between, 50/70 degrees);
i've never had this kind of issues on this laptop with other o.s. like arch (kde/gnome), ubuntu etc etc.
Does anybody know if there something I can do to solve my problem?

seth · 2021-07-01 19:58:29

something I can do to solve my problem?

Yes, isolate it.
Why is the system hot? High CPU load? High GPU load? Fans not turning on?
What hardware is inside? What does powertop say about power consumption (the heat has to come from somehere)?

tcomarchetti · 2021-07-01 20:49:03

seth wrote:

something I can do to solve my problem?
Yes, isolate it.
Why is the system hot? High CPU load? High GPU load? Fans not turning on?
What hardware is inside? What does powertop say about power consumption (the heat has to come from somehere)?

honestly, I really don't know how to reply
I mean... GPU and CPU load is fine, fans seem working fine.... there is this problem since I've installed arch with XFCE; until I was running different OS, everything worked fine........

seth · 2021-07-01 20:54:29

What is "arch with xfce" in comparism to "arch (kde/gnome)" and why do you think it's a "different OS"?
Did you check powertop?
Did you check top?
What hardware and esp. GPU is does the system have?

Again: the heat has to come from somewhere - so if CPU, GPU and fans were *actually* "fine" the only remaining explanation is that the temperature reading is wrong (are you confusing °C and °F? How do you read the temperature?)

tcomarchetti · 2021-07-01 21:02:29

seth wrote:

What is "arch with xfce" in comparism to "arch (kde/gnome)" and why do you think it's a "different OS"?
Did you check powertop?
Did you check top?
What hardware and esp. GPU is does the system have?
Again: the heat has to come from somewhere - so if CPU, GPU and fans were *actually* "fine" the only remaining explanation is that the temperature reading is wrong (are you confusing °C and °F? How do you read the temperature?)

I mean. since i have installed arch with the desktop enviroment XFCE, my laptop is hotter than when I was using it with arch with differtent d.e. or different distro; temperature of gpu, for example, is around 50/70 degrees celsius.
No, I did not check powertop. neither top (I'm newbie, I don't know what you are talking about..................my mistake......).

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Veg
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon Vega Series / Rade

seth · 2021-07-01 21:06:45

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Powertop
https://man.archlinux.org/man/core/procps-ng/top.1.en

How exactly did you "install[ed] arch with the desktop enviroment XFCE"?

temperature of gpu, for example, is around 50/70

A GPU temperature of "50" (°C?) is not particularily hot for a GPU…
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lm_sensors

tcomarchetti · 2021-07-01 21:18:44

Following the arch wiki, I have installed arch and then I've choosen XFCE as d.e.
Btw, even if 50 degrees is a "normale" temperature, I don't understand why in the past (4 weeks ago) temperature was cooler (i was running arch with kde); above all, I can't understand why fans are always running....
CPU and GPU usage are fine (CPU 1%, GPU 15-20%).
I don't understand why if I use other distro (I tried elementary OS yesterday), the problem disappears.

Qwart · 2021-07-01 21:20:58

Take me with a grain of salt as I'm going to speak only out of experience.

I've recently switched from Arco that had a lot of Xfce tools out of the box, and CPU overheats much slower on pure Arch.

I had TLP and Powertop on both distros, so I suspect that one of xfce tools that managed cpu/battery was dragging things down. Don't know if it's the same case for you, but I also had around 10C temperature difference

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seth · 2021-07-01 21:22:50

If you install and start eg.openbox, how does the temperature develop?
And again: check powertop - ideally compare it w/ OtherOS™ (or the openbox session) - the heat has to come from somewhere and that somewhere is ultimately your battery. So the thing that draws toomuch™ battery is the thing that's heating up your system.

We're now 8 posts in and you've barely provided any information beyond "it's hotter than otherwise"…

Qwart · 2021-07-01 21:33:13

He is a newbie, cut him a slack or he will get lost.

Try out this guide on your Xfce Arch, it should also brief you into powertop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSW0ODq … _t&index=5
The other distro might be packing a power management or cpu tool out of the box, hence the lower temperature

If it doesn't stops, have both htop and powertop in two terminals. Look at the "Frequency stats" in powertop menu and overall CPU usage in htop. Post the result of both distros in idle state, and "active" state with some browser tabs (like reddit). Also make sure you have the graphic drivers installed

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icar · 2021-07-01 22:55:06

What is your kernel? I bet it's the recent amdgpu regression in 5.12.13

bigo · 2021-07-02 01:42:29

I suggest you update the kernel to 5.12.14.

The same cpu as mine, radeontop shows afte update, the frequence of GPU goes down. and temperature goes lower.

bigo · 2021-07-02 01:51:29

icar wrote:

What is your kernel? I bet it's the recent amdgpu regression in 5.12.13

I agree!

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