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#1 2021-10-02 13:55:54

laichiaheng
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I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

I can do it with native pacman and Pamac, but no matter how many times that I click reboot and update my system in Gnome Software, it reboots but never updates.

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#2 2021-10-02 14:29:36

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

As a hint for troubleshooting this: 'PackageKit' is supposed to take care of distro-related package management. It has several configuration files...


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#3 2021-10-02 14:32:16

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

As a hint for troubleshooting this: 'PackageKit' is supposed to take care of distro-related package management. It has several configuration files...

Do you mean that there is something wrong with 'gnome-software-packagekit-plugin'

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#4 2021-10-02 14:36:31

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

Personally I've never used GUI's for package management.
Could you please post the output of

pacman -Qs packagekit

?

EDIT: Please see here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman … #Graphical

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#5 2021-10-02 14:46:24

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

local/gnome-software-packagekit-plugin 40.4-1
    PackageKit support plugin for GNOME Software
local/libpackagekit-glib 1.2.4-1
    GLib library for accessing PackageKit
local/packagekit 1.2.4-1
    A system designed to make installation and updates of packages easier

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#6 2021-10-02 14:48:47

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

I think you need this package:
https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=gnome-packagekit
It hasn't been updated in over a year though...

EDIT: This probably won't work on Gnome 40 and 'gnome-software' is required by 'gnome-software-packagekit-plugin' anyway...

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#7 2021-10-02 14:55:39

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

I think you need this package:
https://archlinux.org/packages/?name=gnome-packagekit
It hasn't been updated in over a year though...

Nope, it doesn't work.
It keeps asking me to reboot but does nothing makes me crazy.

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#8 2021-10-02 15:00:20

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

'gnome-software-packagekit-plugin' has got a couple services - see

pacman -Ql gnome-software-packagekit-plugin | grep service

for further investigation...
EDIT: Also see

man gnome-software

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#9 2021-10-02 15:09:46

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

'gnome-software-packagekit-plugin' has got a couple services - see

pacman -Ql gnome-software-packagekit-plugin | grep service

for further investigation...

It returns nothing.

By the way, is the gnome-packagekit needed?

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#10 2021-10-02 15:15:43

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

My bad, try

pacman -Ql gnome-software | grep service

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#11 2021-10-02 15:17:41

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

My bad, try

pacman -Ql gnome-software | grep service
gnome-software /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-software-service.desktop
gnome-software /usr/share/dbus-1/services/
gnome-software /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service
gnome-software /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.Software.service

By the way, is the gnome-packagekit needed?

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#12 2021-10-02 15:23:03

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

laichiaheng wrote:

By the way, is the gnome-packagekit needed?

No.

Did you have a look at  https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman … #Graphical for (possibly unwanted) privilege elevation given that you've added your user to the wheel group?

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#13 2021-10-02 15:36:05

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

No.

Did you have a look at  https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman … #Graphical for (possibly unwanted) privilege elevation given that you've added your user to the wheel group?

Yes, I'm in the wheel group.

wheel:x:998:laichiaheng

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#14 2021-10-02 15:39:41

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

Atm I don't have any other ideas except for checking pacman logs...

EDIT (umpteen's): Despite of risking a slap in the face, you could try to find out how arch-derivatives *cough*manjaro*cough* are implementing this smile

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#15 2021-10-02 16:07:57

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

dogknowsnx wrote:

Atm I don't have any other ideas except for checking pacman logs...

EDIT (umpteen's): Despite of risking a slap in the face, you could try to find out how arch-derivatives *cough*manjaro*cough* are implementing this smile

They upgrade their softwares via Pamac, they don't use Gnome Software either.

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#16 2021-10-02 16:11:13

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

To be blunt -  why do you want to use 'gnome-software' in the first place?

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#17 2021-10-02 16:27:32

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

Just to experience the full Gnome Desktop.

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#18 2021-10-02 16:54:55

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

That's incompatible with Arch. You *need* to see pacman's output. At least Pamac shows it...

I personally recommend using Gnome Software for Flatpak and LVFS only.

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#19 2021-10-02 16:57:23

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

Packagekit integration with Arch is very rudimentary, you should not rely - and expect incompatibilities and breakages - when using these to update system/arch packages.

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#20 2021-10-03 09:21:58

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Re: I'm unable to update the system via Gnome Software.

I have seen the error message:

GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk_2dengine_2derror-_2dquark.Code1:Prepared update not found: /var/lib/PackageKit/prepared-update

There are some bug reports about this bug, but that was 9 months ago, and it should have been fixed.

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