[Solved] Cant start X.org or any Display Manager

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-11 21:49:17

After an update - days ago - my system can not get to the graphical user interface anymore. It always stuck before the display manager(lxdm, sddm, gdm, lightdm... tried all of them).

Also, trying to do "startx" I'm getting an error:

This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.

X.Org X Server 1.21.1.1
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Tue, 02 Nov 2021 22:23:00 +0000 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux-zen root=UUID=3af807bb-e9e4-4ca9-ade5-28bc5796b189 rw loglevel=3 quiet
 
Current version of pixman: 0.40.0
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Nov 11 12:13:38 2021
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(EE) 
Fatal server error:
(EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
(EE) 
(EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
(EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
(EE) 
(EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log is below:
https://pastebin.com/gH8vXycw

(kernel is updated until now and my nvidia driver is nvidia 495.44-3)
(I tried another linux system with my usb stick and everything worked as normal)

Last edited by AndreyTarkovsky (2021-11-14 03:22:17)

loqs · 2021-11-11 21:56:43

Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Tue, 02 Nov 2021 22:23:00 +0000 x86_64

Do you have nvida-dkms installed as well as the nvidia package?

pacman -Qs nvidia

If so do you have the linux-zen-headers installed? If the headers were installed DKMS should have built the nvidia module for linux-zen.

Last edited by loqs (2021-11-11 22:10:26)

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-12 00:28:23

loqs wrote:

Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Tue, 02 Nov 2021 22:23:00 +0000 x86_64
Do you have nvida-dkms installed as well as the nvidia package?
pacman -Qs nvidia
If so do you have the linux-zen-headers installed? If the headers were installed DKMS should have built the nvidia module for linux-zen.

I don't have nvidia-dkms:

local/egl-wayland 1:1.1.9+2+gdaab854-1
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 495.44-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 495.44-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia 495.44-3
    NVIDIA drivers for linux
local/nvidia-settings 495.44-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 495.44-3
    NVIDIA drivers utilities

Linux headers are installed for zen kernel as well

loqs · 2021-11-12 00:30:54

The nvidia package provides kernel modules for the linux package only. They are incompatible with linux-zen e.t.c.. You need nvidia-dkms instead to generate modules for each kernel.

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-12 03:42:13

loqs wrote:

The nvidia package provides kernel modules for the linux package only. They are incompatible with linux-zen e.t.c.. You need nvidia-dkms instead to generate modules for each kernel.

It didnt't help, I have 3 kernels here and even with nvidia-dkms installed, it does not work no matter what kernel I try to boot with.

seth · 2021-11-12 08:07:20

"it does not work" is not an error description.

What's the output of "lsmod | grep nvidia" and the updated xorg log?

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-12 14:11:36

seth wrote:

"it does not work" is not an error description.
What's the output of "lsmod | grep nvidia" and the updated xorg log?

"lsmod | grep nvidia" does not return anything.
these below are the startx and xorg logs using normal linux kernel.

This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.

X.Org X Server 1.21.1.1
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 5.14.16-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue, 02 Nov 2021 22:22:59 +0000 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=3af807bb-e9e4-4ca9-ade5-28bc5796b189 rw loglevel=3 quiet
 
Current version of pixman: 0.40.0
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Nov 12 10:59:33 2021
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(EE) 
Fatal server error:
(EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
(EE) 
(EE) 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
(EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
(EE) 
(EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

xorg log:
https://pastebin.com/T9Y7fWaM

seth · 2021-11-12 14:29:37

The nvidia driver isn't even considered, the nvidia kernel module not loaded, likewise "lsmod | grep nouveau" is likely empty?

pacman -Qs nvidia

and check the dkms status: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dynami … st_modules

Mr.Elendig · 2021-11-12 15:32:44

What card is this?

loqs · 2021-11-12 17:46:03

[   144.089] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 10de:128b:10de:118b rev 161, Mem @ 0xf6000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xe8000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000e000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072

Geforce 710 so needs the 470x driver.

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-13 04:02:22

seth wrote:

The nvidia driver isn't even considered, the nvidia kernel module not loaded, likewise "lsmod | grep nouveau" is likely empty?
pacman -Qs nvidia
and check the dkms status: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dynami … st_modules

I installed the nvidia-dkms again, these are the outputs

pacman -Qs nvidia:

local/egl-wayland 1:1.1.9+2+gdaab854-1
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 495.44-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 495.44-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia 495.44-3
    NVIDIA drivers for linux
local/nvidia-settings 495.44-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 495.44-3
    NVIDIA drivers utilities

dkms status:

nvidia/495.44, 5.14.16-arch1-1, x86_64: installed
nvidia/495.44, 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen, x86_64: installed
v4l2loopback-dc/1.8.0, 5.13.13-arch1-1, x86_64: installed (WARNING! Missing some built modules!)
v4l2loopback-dc/1.8.0, 5.14.16-arch1-1, x86_64: installed
v4l2loopback-dc/1.8.0, 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen, x86_64: installedError! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
File: /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/6.1.26_OSE/source/dkms.conf does not exist.

v4l2loopback-dc/1.8.0, 5.14.2-arch1-2, x86_64: installed (WARNING! Missing some built modules!)
v4l2loopback/0.12.5, 5.14.16-arch1-1, x86_64: installed
v4l2loopback/0.12.5, 5.14.16-zen1-1-zen, x86_64: installed

seth · 2021-11-13 07:08:03

loqs wrote:

[   144.089] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 10de:128b:10de:118b rev 161, Mem @ 0xf6000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xe8000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000e000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072

Geforce 710 so needs the 470x driver.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-470xx-dkms/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvid … -settings/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-470xx-utils/

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-13 22:21:07

seth wrote:

loqs wrote:
[   144.089] (--) PCI:*(1@0:0:0) 10de:128b:10de:118b rev 161, Mem @ 0xf6000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/134217728, 0xe8000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000e000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
Geforce 710 so needs the 470x driver.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-470xx-dkms/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvid … -settings/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-470xx-utils/

Yes, 470xx solves the Xorg issue, but the performance is horrible, I can not even watch an youtube video with 720p 60fps in full screen(1600x900).
Can I have the driver I was using 2 months ago and make it "no upgradable"?

seth · 2021-11-13 22:23:18

You were using 470xx 2 months before and currently are probably using the vesa driver because the installation of the 470xx driver somehow failed.
Post your updated xorg log.

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-13 22:33:10

seth wrote:

You were using 470xx 2 months before and currently are probably using the vesa driver because the installation of the 470xx driver somehow failed.
Post your updated xorg log.

I don't think so, because I remember when bought this card and the performance was bad, then after some months with the newer drivers the performance got okay, after installing 470xx it went back to the poor performance.

Xorg.0.log:
https://pastebin.com/Hm2QSEfu

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-13 22:35:33

AndreyTarkovsky wrote:

seth wrote:
You were using 470xx 2 months before and currently are probably using the vesa driver because the installation of the 470xx driver somehow failed.
Post your updated xorg log.
I don't think so, because I remember when bought this card and the performance was bad, then after some months with the newer drivers the performance got okay, after installing 470xx it went back to the poor performance.
Xorg.0.log:
https://pastebin.com/Hm2QSEfu

sudo pacman -Qs nvidia

local/egl-wayland 1:1.1.9+2+gdaab854-1
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/lib32-nvidia-470xx-utils 470.86-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/lib32-opencl-nvidia-470xx 470.86-1
    OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl-470xx 470.86-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia-470xx-dkms 470.86-2
    NVIDIA drivers - module sources
local/nvidia-470xx-settings 470.86-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-470xx-utils 470.86-2
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/opencl-nvidia-470xx 470.86-2
    OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA

seth · 2021-11-13 22:43:51

Two months ago nvidia was at 470.63, https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-p … 5eb9b7203a
You can edit the 470xx packages to use that version, but by "youtube video", do you mean "in the browser"?
2 months ago chromium still supported HW decoding - now it doesn't, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=244031&p=24
=> Did you run other performance tests?

You're using the nvidia driver, but this is also an unconfigured optimus system

Edit: english…

Last edited by seth (2021-11-13 22:44:28)

AndreyTarkovsky · 2021-11-13 22:57:32

seth wrote:

Two months ago nvidia was at 470.63, https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-p … 5eb9b7203a
You can edit the 470xx packages to use that version, but by "youtube video", do you mean "in the browser"?
2 months ago chromium still supported HW decoding - now it doesn't, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=244031&p=24
=> Did you run other performance tests?
You're using the nvidia driver, but this is also an unconfigured optimus system
Edit: english…

glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
189 frames in 5.0 seconds = 37.699 FPS
279 frames in 9.9 seconds = 28.095 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.014 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.965 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.037 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.002 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.962 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.005 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.037 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.003 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.002 FPS
255 frames in 8.3 seconds = 30.635 FPS
243 frames in 5.0 seconds = 48.502 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.969 FPS
267 frames in 5.0 seconds = 53.395 FPS

seth · 2021-11-13 23:00:33

glxgears is not a benchmark - the output looks like there's some double syncing going on, pot. because of the optimus situation - or your compositor.

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