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#26 2022-02-14 11:23:08

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Ok so I told my isp and they said that it is a problem with the operating system I am running

That's why I asked to try from a different device like your smartphone.
(support desks tend to be very good at putting the blame on someone other then them ).

When you use a vpn or tor browser your network traffic is tunneled over your provider network to a location somewhere else and enters the public internet from that somewhere else.

These type of problems are very hard to troubleshoot as there are lots of intermediaries involved and the errror cause could lie with anyone of them.

Another user recently had similar issues and switched to linux mint because things did work under that distro.

One thing that may be worth exploring is using different tools to manage your network connections.
What are you using now to manage your network connections ?

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#27 2022-02-14 21:21:19

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

DNS issue(?) - what's your configured DNS server and what if you try cloudflare (1.1.1.1) and google (8.8.8.8)?

curl -v --dns-servers 1.1.1.1 https://chrisx.xyz
curl -v --dns-servers 8.8.8.8 https://chrisx.xyz

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#28 2022-02-15 08:28:37

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

DNS issue(?) - what's your configured DNS server and what if you try cloudflare (1.1.1.1) and google (8.8.8.8)?

curl -v --dns-servers 1.1.1.1 https://chrisx.xyz
curl -v --dns-servers 8.8.8.8 https://chrisx.xyz

https://paste.rs/Zuv / http://ix.io/3PER

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#29 2022-02-15 08:29:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Whenever I try to ping this website I can't ping it Idk why sad - https://paste.rs/Wbf / http://ix.io/3PES

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#30 2022-02-15 08:32:14

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

And here is my router configuration - https://ibb.co/njDzBCx
Everything looks good ig ? Or should I change the dns server2 to 8.8.8.8 / 1.1.1.1 ?


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#31 2022-02-15 08:35:27

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Ok so I told my isp and they said that it is a problem with the operating system I am running

That's why I asked to try from a different device like your smartphone.
(support desks tend to be very good at putting the blame on someone other then them ).

When you use a vpn or tor browser your network traffic is tunneled over your provider network to a location somewhere else and enters the public internet from that somewhere else.

These type of problems are very hard to troubleshoot as there are lots of intermediaries involved and the errror cause could lie with anyone of them.

Another user recently had similar issues and switched to linux mint because things did work under that distro.

I am not sure what is happening I tried to go to the website chrisx.xyz in smartphone. I can easily go to chrisx.xyz in google chrome but I cannot open the website in brave/firefox/ungoogled chromium.

Lone_Wolf wrote:

One thing that may be worth exploring is using different tools to manage your network connections.
What are you using now to manage your network connections ?

I use NetworkManager to manage my network.

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#32 2022-02-15 08:42:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

https://paste.rs/Zuv - curls certainly gets the expected webpage, resolving 172.67.144.59 (I assume that's using 1.1.1.1?
https://paste.rs/Wbf resolves 104.21.28.45 and times on on that, can you "ping 104.21.28.45"?

Both IPs are from cloudflare.
You can try to change the DNS in your router, what's 172.16.212.129 (that's a LAN IP and the gateway configured in that router config screenshot, 208.67.222.222 is opendns)?
Next question is actually your local DNS config and esp. whether systemd-resolved is involved and how

stat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/resolv.conf
nslookup chrisx.xyz
ps aux | grep resolved

Edit:
Also straight up

curl -v [url]https://chrisx.xyz[/url]

to make sure this isn't just some browser extension (adblocker etc.) going wild.

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#33 2022-02-16 05:20:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

https://paste.rs/Zuv - curls certainly gets the expected webpage, resolving 172.67.144.59 (I assume that's using 1.1.1.1?
https://paste.rs/Wbf resolves 104.21.28.45 and times on on that, can you "ping 104.21.28.45"?

It shows -

rounak@rounak-System-Product-Name:~$ ping 104.21.28.45
PING 104.21.28.45 (104.21.28.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- 104.21.28.45 ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7149m
seth wrote:

Both IPs are from cloudflare.
You can try to change the DNS in your router, what's 172.16.212.129 (that's a LAN IP and the gateway configured in that router config screenshot, 208.67.222.222 is opendns)?

I don't know whether 208.67.222.222 is open dns or not but the router is configured by my ISP so I have no Idea.

seth wrote:

Edit:
Also straight up

curl -v [url]https://chrisx.xyz[/url]

to make sure this isn't just some browser extension (adblocker etc.) going wild.

rounak@rounak-System-Product-Name:~$ curl -v https://chrisx.xyz
*   Trying 104.21.28.45:443...
* TCP_NODELAY set
*   Trying 2606:4700:3032::6815:1c2d:443...
* TCP_NODELAY set
* connect to 2606:4700:3032::6815:1c2d port 443 failed: Network is unreachable
*   Trying 2606:4700:3030::ac43:903b:443...
* TCP_NODELAY set
* connect to 2606:4700:3030::ac43:903b port 443 failed: Network is unreachable

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#34 2022-02-16 05:25:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

But when I do

 curl -v https://paste.rs 

It works I don't know why sad

 rounak@rounak-System-Product-Name:~$ curl -v paste.rs
*   Trying 45.63.94.214:80...
* TCP_NODELAY set
* Connected to paste.rs (45.63.94.214) port 80 (#0)
> GET / HTTP/1.1
> Host: paste.rs
> User-Agent: curl/7.68.0
> Accept: */*
> 
* Mark bundle as not supporting multiuse
< HTTP/1.1 307 Temporary Redirect
< Server: nginx
< Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:24:30 GMT
< Content-Type: text/html
< Content-Length: 180
< Connection: keep-alive
< Location: https://paste.rs/
< Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000; includeSubdomains;
< X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
< X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
< X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block
< 
<html>
<head><title>307 Temporary Redirect</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>307 Temporary Redirect</h1></center>
<hr><center>nginx</center>
</body>
</html>
* Connection #0 to host paste.rs left intact
rounak@rounak-System-Product-Name:~$ 
seth wrote:

nslookup chrisx.xyz

 
rounak@rounak-System-Product-Name:~$ nslookup chrisx.xyz
Server:		127.0.0.53
Address:	127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:	chrisx.xyz
Address: 172.67.144.59
Name:	chrisx.xyz
Address: 104.21.28.45
Name:	chrisx.xyz
Address: 2606:4700:3030::ac43:903b
Name:	chrisx.xyz
Address: 2606:4700:3032::6815:1c2d
seth wrote:
 
stat /etc/resolv.conf
cat /etc/resolv.conf
ps aux | grep resolved
 
 [rounak@archpc ~]$ stat /etc/resolv.conf
  File: /etc/resolv.conf
  Size: 82        	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 8,3	Inode: 20972589    Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2022-02-16 12:06:18.114831726 +0530
Modify: 2022-02-16 12:06:18.104831726 +0530
Change: 2022-02-16 12:06:18.108165059 +0530
 Birth: 2022-02-16 12:06:18.104831726 +0530
 [rounak@archpc ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 172.16.212.129
nameserver 208.67.222.222
 [rounak@archpc ~]$ ps aux | grep resolved
rounak      1544  0.0  0.0   6672  2544 pts/0    S+   12:13   0:00 grep resolved

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#35 2022-02-16 06:45:16

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

These are the outputs. I don't know but I still cannot go to some websites. sad . Pages are also not loading properly like in youtube the channel avatar and channel profile pictures are just blank I don't know why.
Here is the screenshot - https://ibb.co/ZJyqMp6

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#36 2022-02-16 07:47:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … NS_servers (there's probably also a config page in whatever GUI you're using)
Try 1.1.1.1 & 8.8.8.8

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#37 2022-02-16 08:02:39

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … NS_servers (there's probably also a config page in whatever GUI you're using)
Try 1.1.1.1 & 8.8.8.8

Ok so I made a .conf file using the touch command and I did this -

 
rounak@archpc ~]$ cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/dns-servers.conf
[global-dns-domain-*]
servers=::1,127.0.0.1,1.1.1.1,8.8.8.8

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#38 2022-02-16 08:12:10

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Of course it is, because no explicit DNS has been configured. You may want to try https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … er-applet/

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#39 2022-02-16 08:20:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

Of course it is, because no explicit DNS has been configured. You may want to try https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … er-applet/

I did this https://ibb.co/4JhL0v8 but still it is not working sad


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#40 2022-02-16 08:47:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

That's an additional DNS, check the impact on /etc/resolv.conf.
You can manually edit the file to test the impact, but nb. that NM will at some point reset it

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#41 2022-02-16 09:15:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

That's an additional DNS, check the impact on /etc/resolv.conf.
You can manually edit the file to test the impact, but nb. that NM will at some point reset it

So I manually edited the /etc/resolv.conf to -

 
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 172.16.212.129
nameserver 1.1.1.1

and in router settings I changed the dns server 2 which was 208.67.222.222 to 1.1.1.1 but still the problem persists and I cannot ping the website.


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#42 2022-02-16 09:26:18

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

No - *both*!
And in particular get rid of 172.16.212.129 since I'm far less concerned about opendns amore about whatever that local IP is (aside also being the gateway)

Edit: you can also try "curl -v --dns-servers 208.67.222.222 https://chrisx.xyz" to explicitly test opendns, but it resolves correctly for me.

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

seth wrote:

No - *both*!
And in particular get rid of 172.16.212.129 since I'm far less concerned about opendns amore about whatever that local IP is (aside also being the gateway)

Edit: you can also try "curl -v --dns-servers 208.67.222.222 https://chrisx.xyz" to explicitly test opendns, but it resolves correctly for me.


Oh ok!! I tried what u said first I chaged the dns server 1 to 1.1.1.1 and dns server 2 to 8.8.8.8 and vice versa and nothing worked but when I changed the
dns server 1 to 208.67.222.222  and dns server 2 to 1.1.1.1 sometimes I can ping the website chrisx.xyz but sometimes I cannot and in firefox  sometimes I can reach the website and sometimes I cannot reach the website. Earlier I couldn't even ping the website but now I can but sometimes(not always).

[rounak@archpc ~]$ ping chrisx.xyz
PING chrisx.xyz (104.21.28.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
^V^C
--- chrisx.xyz ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11145ms

[rounak@archpc ~]$ ping chrisx.xyz
PING chrisx.xyz (104.21.28.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- chrisx.xyz ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1006ms

[rounak@archpc ~]$ ping chrisx.xyz
PING chrisx.xyz (172.67.144.59) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 172.67.144.59 (172.67.144.59): icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=36.8 ms
64 bytes from 172.67.144.59 (172.67.144.59): icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=37.0 ms
64 bytes from 172.67.144.59 (172.67.144.59): icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=36.5 ms
clear64 bytes from 172.67.144.59 (172.67.144.59): icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=35.0 ms
^C
--- chrisx.xyz ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.986/36.324/37.013/0.793 ms
[rounak@archpc ~]$ 

Looks like my pc is trying to contact 104.21.28.45 ip adress sometimes which doesn't seem to work but when my pc contacts 172.67.144.59 ip address then everything works I don't know why it happens. sad

My /etc/resolv.conf
and here is my router settings screenshot - https://ibb.co/XygsZy9

[rounak@archpc ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 208.67.222.222 
nameserver 1.1.1.1

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#44 2022-02-16 10:20:24

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Change the config in your router to use 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 as DNS servers and reboot.

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#45 2022-02-16 12:59:18

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

1.1.1.1 resolves 104.21.28.45 & 172.67.144.59
8.8.8.8 &  & 9.9.9.9 & 208.67.222.222 resolve 172.67.144.59 & 104.21.28.45 so configure the router DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 and reboot the computer and see what happens.

As for the 104.21.28.45 connection:

ping -c1 104.21.28.45
tracepath 104.21.28.45
tracepath 172.67.144.59

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seth wrote:

1.1.1.1 resolves 104.21.28.45 & 172.67.144.59
8.8.8.8 &  & 9.9.9.9 & 208.67.222.222 resolve 172.67.144.59 & 104.21.28.45 so configure the router DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 and reboot the computer and see what happens.

I tried with 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 and same result nothing changed.

seth wrote:

As for the 104.21.28.45 connection:

ping -c1 104.21.28.45
tracepath 104.21.28.45
tracepath 172.67.144.59
 
[rounak@archpc ~]$ tracepath 172.67.144.59
 1?: [LOCALHOST]                      pmtu 1500
 1:  _gateway                                              1.229ms asymm 35 
 1:  _gateway                                              1.194ms asymm 35 
 2:  no reply
 3:  node-150-107-176-65.alliancebroadband.in              6.552ms 
 4:  192.168.199.130                                      35.951ms 
 5:  no reply
 6:  no reply
 7:  no reply
^C^C
[rounak@archpc ~]$ ping -c1 104.21.28.45
PING 104.21.28.45 (104.21.28.45) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 104.21.28.45 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

[rounak@archpc ~]$ tracepath 104.21.28.45
 1?: [LOCALHOST]                      pmtu 1500
 1:  _gateway                                              1.225ms asymm 35 
 1:  _gateway                                              1.185ms asymm 35 
 2:  no reply
 3:  node-150-107-176-65.alliancebroadband.in              7.414ms 
 4:  192.168.199.130                                      42.766ms 
 5:  no reply
 6:  no reply
 7:  no reply
 8:  no reply
 9:  no reply
10:  no reply
11:  no reply
12:  no reply
13:  no reply
^C
[rounak@archpc ~]$ 

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

still it is not working

[rounak@archpc ~]$ ping chrisx.xyz
PING chrisx.xyz (104.21.28.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- chrisx.xyz ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 6074ms

 

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#48 2022-02-16 18:16:55

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

Updated /etc/resolv.conf ?

However, wtf is the traffic going from alliancebroadband.in (your isp?) to a local ip range that is not the local segment you seem to be using???
Smells like your isp is safe-guarding you against wrongthinking... hmm

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#49 2022-02-16 19:11:22

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seth wrote:

Updated /etc/resolv.conf ?

However, wtf is the traffic going from alliancebroadband.in (your isp?) to a local ip range that is not the local segment you seem to be using???
Smells like your isp is safe-guarding you against wrongthinking... hmm

Yes alliance broadband is my isp. I tried to go to the website chrisx.xyz in linux mint and same problem persists. I don't know what went wrong because everything was working fine just 3 months ago. sad

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#50 2022-02-16 19:21:01

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Re: [SOLVED] Websites not working on arch

I'm pretty sure this is a routing issue of your ISP - malice or ineptitude.
Seems not the first time and the pattern is similar:
https://community.cloudflare.com/t/rout … india/5417

Edit: also https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianGaming/c … ering_and/
See whether you can tracepath 1.1.1.1

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