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#1 2022-05-29 23:24:35

Nepeta
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Network logo has a question mark

i installed Gnome today, i have also used ubuntu a little but i am clueless why i have this question on my network thing, i can use the web etc but i cant install stuff via "software"

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#2 2022-05-30 04:58:31

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

DNS issue or multiple concurrent network managing services.
Post the output of

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

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#3 2022-05-30 13:16:57

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

would this be correct, sorry i dont know how to code block yet lol

dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service   | system
dirmngr.socket                           | sockets.target.wants
display-manager.service                  | system
fstrim.timer                             | timers.target.wants
gcr-ssh-agent.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
getty@tty1.service                       | getty.target.wants
gnome-keyring-daemon.socket              | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-browser.socket                 | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-extra.socket                   | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent.socket                         | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-ssh.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
NetworkManager.service                   | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager-wait-online.service       | network-online.target.wants
p11-kit-server.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pipewire-pulse.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pipewire-session-manager.service         | user
pipewire.socket                          | sockets.target.wants
remote-fs.target                         | multi-user.target.wants
systemd-timesyncd.service                | sysinit.target.wants
wireplumber.service                      | pipewire.service.wants
xdg-user-dirs-update.service             | default.target.wants

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#4 2022-05-30 13:23:20

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

https://bbs.archlinux.org/help.php#bbcode

There're no concurrent services, please post (in code tags!) the outputs of

ip a
ip r
dig google.com
dig @8.8.8.8 google.com
cat /etc/resolv.conf

And also 

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

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#5 2022-05-30 20:09:53

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

so, the 2nd one does not respond anything or do anything to what i am aware of but the 1st one responds 

1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 24:4b:fe:de:cf:b5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.197/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp3s0
       valid_lft 7072sec preferred_lft 7072sec
    inet6 fe80::765:25a3:d978:58e6/64 scope link noprefixroute 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp src 192.168.0.197 metric 20100 
192.168.0.0/24 dev enp3s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.197 metric 100 
bash: dig: command not found
bash: dig: command not found
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 192.168.0.1

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#6 2022-05-31 05:12:37

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

You have a lease and use the DNS on the gateway (likely your router)
"dig" is part oft the bind pagake, you can try "drill" instead.
The last command will print a url to where your journal got uploaded, but let's first see the output of dig or drill.

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#7 2022-05-31 11:06:45

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp3s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 24:4b:fe:de:cf:b5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.197/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp3s0
       valid_lft 7024sec preferred_lft 7024sec
    inet6 fe80::765:25a3:d978:58e6/64 scope link noprefixroute 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp src 192.168.0.197 metric 20100 
192.168.0.0/24 dev enp3s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.197 metric 100 
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 19972
;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;; google.com.	IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com.	18	IN	A	142.250.187.238

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

;; Query time: 23 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 11:05:51 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 44
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 10521
;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;; google.com.	IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com.	256	IN	A	216.58.212.238

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

;; Query time: 18 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8
;; WHEN: Tue May 31 11:05:51 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 44
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 192.168.0.1

it isnt showing the full response so see the raw to see it all

Last edited by Nepeta (2022-05-31 11:08:24)

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#8 2022-05-31 13:04:42

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

The DNS resolution works, can you

curl 'https://ping.archlinux.org/'

it isnt showing the full response so see the raw to see it all

Not sure what you want to say w/ that, but if the above curl works (will print "This domain is used for connectivity checking (captive portal detection).") we'll need the system journal.
And maybe more details about "i cant install stuff via "software"" - how exactly does what process fail?

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#9 2022-05-31 17:20:37

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

I cant download stuff form the software app 50% of the time and if it doesnt work it wont go up from 0%

This domain is used for connectivity checking (captive portal detection).

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#10 2022-05-31 19:27:15

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

seth wrote:

we'll need the system journal.

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#11 2022-06-02 15:27:20

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

How do we get this.

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#12 2022-06-02 15:35:21

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Journal

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

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#13 2022-06-02 16:32:54

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

Is this meant to log anything?

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#14 2022-06-02 20:03:20

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

It's meatn to post the journal to 0x0.st and return a link to its location.

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#15 2022-06-09 15:58:16

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

it doesnt do anything, sorry for not answering lol

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#16 2022-06-09 19:21:22

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Re: Network logo has a question mark

That's hardly possible - you'd at least get some error message.
You can redirect the journalctl output into a file and upload that somewhere™

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