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#1 2022-07-22 13:02:48

LowkeyUndergrounder
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[SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Original Post Title: System halts for a while many times after a slight bit of gaming

Greetings, i lately installed Arch-Linux on my desktop pc in order to escape from proprietary software and for some reason, have been facing multiple issues (regarding the graphics drivers), one of them being the system freezing when something (i think related somehow to the sounds that are currently playing in the game) that i am unable to decipher happens, i will appreciate anybodies support and will provide full-system logs here.

Also, here is a clip from the issue happening on Half-Life (near the middle of the video i start spam-clicking CTRL+ALT+F2 (i think, may be F1 as i am unsure if i was using Wayland or X, it happens on both) in hopes that it will stop the halt, it magically does after a while of spamming and re-entering).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhQRL_Shj6I

Full System Log (Running CS:GO, bug happened around 10-20 times, locking me out from playing for around 10 minutes) 
https://0x0.st/ojcu.txt

Edit: I am unable to use the lock keys including num-lock, caps-lock etc. when the halt is in progress. I think this may also have a bit of a relation with another post of mine https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=278279

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#2 2022-07-22 13:44:10

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Go ahead and run:

sudo pacman -Syu

because I think there was a Nvidia driver update recently, or it could just be my memory deceiving me.


System Specs:
Intel Core i5-2400 Nvidia GTX 1050ti Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury (Mouse) BestBuy Essentials USB Keyboard
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Desktop Environment: KDE Plasma Window Manager: KWin Operating System: Arch Linux (btw)

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#3 2022-07-22 13:46:54

V1del
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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Have you tried the non-open standard nvidia kernel module? Nvidia-open is declared beta quality for non-workstation gpus.  Note you'll likely have to add ibt=off to your kernel parameters for these to work.

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#4 2022-07-22 14:06:49

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

V1del wrote:

Have you tried the non-open standard nvidia kernel module? Nvidia-open is declared beta quality for non-workstation gpus.  Note you'll likely have to add ibt=off to your kernel parameters for these to work.

Yep, pretty sure it was the same result; i'll retry though.

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#5 2022-07-22 14:15:48

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

V1del wrote:

Have you tried the non-open standard nvidia kernel module? Nvidia-open is declared beta quality for non-workstation gpus.  Note you'll likely have to add ibt=off to your kernel parameters for these to work.

What are the advantages of the open driver over the original 'nvidia' package?


System Specs:
Intel Core i5-2400 Nvidia GTX 1050ti Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury (Mouse) BestBuy Essentials USB Keyboard
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Desktop Environment: KDE Plasma Window Manager: KWin Operating System: Arch Linux (btw)

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#6 2022-07-22 14:19:19

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

It's open source. There are not expected to be any functional difference or advantage at this time afaik.

FWIW regarding the crash in this very thread, does indeed sound like some incompat with nvidia-open: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern … issues/272

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#7 2022-07-22 14:28:53

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

V1del wrote:

It's open source. There are not expected to be any functional difference or advantage at this time afaik.

FWIW regarding the crash in this very thread, does indeed sound like some incompat with nvidia-open: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern … issues/272

It appears nvidia-open is in the extra repo, yet I can't install it. (extra repo is uncommented). attempting to install the package by itself solved the issue.

Last edited by JaydenDev (2022-07-22 14:29:35)


System Specs:
Intel Core i5-2400 Nvidia GTX 1050ti Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury (Mouse) BestBuy Essentials USB Keyboard
Software Specifications:
Desktop Environment: KDE Plasma Window Manager: KWin Operating System: Arch Linux (btw)

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#8 2022-07-22 14:30:22

V1del
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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Please don't hijack this thread for your own troubles with nvidia-open. If you need help there make a new thread. Also note that nvidia-open will only working with Turing and up.

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#9 2022-07-22 14:36:09

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

V1del wrote:

It's open source. There are not expected to be any functional difference or advantage at this time afaik.

FWIW regarding the crash in this very thread, does indeed sound like some incompat with nvidia-open: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kern … issues/272

Nothing changed, proprietary drivers yield the same result...

Edit: Full system log:  https://0x0.st/ojc0.txt (scroll up a bit, tested on Half-Life 1 appid 70)

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#10 2022-07-22 15:19:41

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Reads similar, assuming it's the linked bug this might just be an issue in the current driver that will get fixed in an upcoming release with source games. Can you reproduce this with other stuff, e.g. Proton or native games that do not use the Source engine/aren't from Valve ?

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#11 2022-07-22 15:39:04

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

V1del wrote:

Reads similar, assuming it's the linked bug this might just be an issue in the current driver that will get fixed in an upcoming release with source games. Can you reproduce this with other stuff, e.g. Proton or native games that do not use the Source engine/aren't from Valve ?

Good call, I'll try something non-source but i must say, i do not have very-high hopes on the source engine being the culprit, it may be the nvidia drivers somehow doing something but i do not think it is due to the source engine itself as Half-Life hasn't been updated for a slight while, one might say...

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#12 2022-07-22 17:25:59

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

I think switching to the lts kernel somehow fixed the issue, i'll post an update on the matter after tidious testing.

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#13 2022-07-25 12:42:10

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

LowkeyUndergrounder wrote:

I think switching to the lts kernel somehow fixed the issue, i'll post an update on the matter after tidious testing.

No problems yet, will continue using installation.

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#14 2022-08-14 16:52:40

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Re: [SOLVED] System halts ... after a slight bit of gaming (Nvidia)

Marking Solved, Switching kernels (from linux to linux-lts once and linux-zen once) and re-installing (after pacman -Rns) the drivers (nvidia-dkms nvidia-utils nvidia-settings et al) did the trick...

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