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#1 2022-08-31 02:17:54

aVerySpooky
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[SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

I recently reinstalled arch after a rather long hiatus that was mostly due to this problem I was too stubborn to ask for help on. The problem is pretty simple. My internet downs and ups are much worse than any of my other devices, only getting 2mbps of the usual 20 or so. I get around 20 on my laptop, my phone, and even this same exact device running mint and windows. Ive tried downloads on both Origin through lutris and steam and i get the same result, ~2mbps. Ive tried every network tip i could find on the wiki. I tried disabling IPv6, same. I tried installing, enabling, and rebooting with dnsmasq, same. I even tried changing the kernel options that were specific to Gibabyte LAN controllers, since it looked like the one i have. same result. Even though I've used arch before I'm pretty much a noob, so the only thing ive really been able to notice on my own is that the 2mbps im getting doesnt fluctuate like it would on other OSs, im not sure if thats useful information, but i found it odd. A final note is I tried both wifi and lan (which is powerline but before it got the same speeds as my wifi so idk if that means anything) powerline actually manages to perform slightly better, which I was surprised by since usually when i run powerline its a tad bit slower, anyway this is a lot of info but i'd appreciate any help that can be provided. Thanks! c:

Last edited by aVerySpooky (2022-09-01 16:31:51)

btw i use arch but im also trans

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#2 2022-08-31 05:47:10

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

First, welcome to the forums.  Seriously.

Now, I am going to be unsocial (not really)

You talked about Gigabit LANs, but you seem to be talking about WiFi.  Could you please clarify.
mbps (mb/s) means millibit per second, or one bit every thousand seconds.  I assume you really mean Mb/s (Megabit/sec) or 1000000 bits per second.
What is the chipset for your NIC? (Assuming still it is a WiFi)
What are you using to control your WiFi (NetworkManager, systemd-network, etc...)  Can you please post the output of find /etc/systemd
If it is Wifi, what are the output of iw dev wlan0 info and of cat /proc/net/wireless   ?

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#3 2022-08-31 17:46:26

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

Sorry, I shouldve clarified, I was simply saying my computer has the capability for both gigabit lan and wifi, and both of them produce very subpar results compared to what I've got on this machine using mint (which I only switched from a couple days ago) for simplicities sake i am just talking about the wired connection since it's the one id prefer to use. as for NetworkManager, I installed and enabled it when I was initially setting up. Here is the output of find /etc/systemd

/etc/systemd
/etc/systemd/networkd.conf
/etc/systemd/pstore.conf
/etc/systemd/logind.conf
/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
/etc/systemd/sleep.conf
/etc/systemd/journal-remote.conf
/etc/systemd/system
/etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants/NetworkManager-wait-online.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/snapd.socket
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/snapd.apparmor.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/dnsmasq.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/remote-fs.target
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/dhcpcd.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/iwd.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/user.conf
/etc/systemd/resolved.conf
/etc/systemd/system.conf
/etc/systemd/coredump.conf
/etc/systemd/journal-upload.conf
/etc/systemd/network
/etc/systemd/oomd.conf
/etc/systemd/homed.conf
/etc/systemd/user
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pulseaudio.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/p11-kit-server.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pipewire.socket
/etc/systemd/user/default.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/default.target.wants/xdg-user-dirs-update.service
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire-session-manager.service
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire.service.wants
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire.service.wants/pipewire-media-session.service
/etc/systemd/journald.conf

btw i use arch but im also trans

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#4 2022-08-31 17:51:50

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

So you've got dhcpcd, NetworkManager, and iwd all enabled. Don't do that.

Pick one, disable the others.

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#5 2022-08-31 18:05:28

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

i disabled and stopped both iwd and dhcpcd, then rebooted just to be safe, still seems to be no difference.

btw i use arch but im also trans

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#6 2022-08-31 18:06:01

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

You have NetworkManger, dhcpcd and iwd *services* all enabled and are fighting for control.  To use NetworkManager, disable and stop the iwd, dhcpcd and dnsmasq *services*
Network manager will handle dhcp and dns on its own -- perhaps by starting the appropriate *daemon*.

Edit:  Sorry, phone rand and I got snaked in the time it took me to get back to this.   Also disable dnsmasq.  And, if things are still not working, I am going to ask for an updated find /etc/systemd output.

Last edited by ewaller (2022-08-31 18:08:26)

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#7 2022-08-31 18:20:33

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

this is the same command, after checking that only networkmanager is running

/etc/systemd
/etc/systemd/networkd.conf
/etc/systemd/pstore.conf
/etc/systemd/logind.conf
/etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
/etc/systemd/sleep.conf
/etc/systemd/journal-remote.conf
/etc/systemd/system
/etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/network-online.target.wants/NetworkManager-wait-online.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/snapd.socket
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/snapd.apparmor.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/remote-fs.target
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.service
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/system/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-nordpass-142.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gtk\x2dcommon\x2dthemes-1535.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-snapd-16292.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-core18-2538.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-bare-5.mount
/etc/systemd/system/default.target.wants/var-lib-snapd-snap-gnome\x2d3\x2d28\x2d1804-161.mount
/etc/systemd/user.conf
/etc/systemd/resolved.conf
/etc/systemd/system.conf
/etc/systemd/coredump.conf
/etc/systemd/journal-upload.conf
/etc/systemd/network
/etc/systemd/oomd.conf
/etc/systemd/homed.conf
/etc/systemd/user
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pulseaudio.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/p11-kit-server.socket
/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pipewire.socket
/etc/systemd/user/default.target.wants
/etc/systemd/user/default.target.wants/xdg-user-dirs-update.service
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire-session-manager.service
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire.service.wants
/etc/systemd/user/pipewire.service.wants/pipewire-media-session.service
/etc/systemd/journald.conf

btw i use arch but im also trans

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#8 2022-08-31 18:27:31

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

Looks rational.  What are the output of ip addr and of cat /proc/net/wireless  ?

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#9 2022-08-31 18:37:58

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp5s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 18:c0:4d:62:69:79 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.31/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp5s0
       valid_lft 84943sec preferred_lft 84943sec
    inet6 2601:601:1200:5b80:97c4:93cf:ff:f3ee/64 scope global dynamic noprefixroute 
       valid_lft 7183sec preferred_lft 7183sec
    inet6 fe80::5eb3:7d98:2b27:1b33/64 scope link noprefixroute 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 04:6c:59:23:3e:62 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.16/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlan0
       valid_lft 86380sec preferred_lft 86380sec
    inet6 2601:601:1200:5b80:9457:9cee:cb3c:13d4/64 scope global dynamic noprefixroute 
       valid_lft 7183sec preferred_lft 7183sec
    inet6 fe80::a213:1324:2f81:c2af/64 scope link noprefixroute 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

cat /proc/net/wireless
Inter-| sta-|   Quality        |   Discarded packets               | Missed | WE
 face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon | 22
 wlan0: 0000   54.  -56.  -256        0      0      0      0      3        0

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#10 2022-08-31 19:14:07

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

Nothing wrong with that.  What is the output of iw dev wlan0 link
?

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#11 2022-08-31 19:35:55

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

I'd start to look at the HW and whether there're maybe FW crashes,

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

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#12 2022-09-01 16:31:20

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Re: [SOLVED] horrible internet speeds only in arch

final update:  it turns out although its been working really well for me in latency sensitive applications, powerline, at least the way i have it, has really awful downs and ups. disabled ethernet and speeds were 10x better. im so glad im moving out soon and can have a dedicated ethernet connection

btw i use arch but im also trans

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