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#1 2006-12-21 21:55:00

Ichji
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Looking for a specific WM/DE

First of all I'd like to apologize if my english is not that good, I'm from Germany.

I guess it has been discussed pretty often but nonetheless I need your help.
I am looking for a WM/DE like the Thread Title indicates. It would be kinda nice to have the following features.

- Fully customizable (via rc or whatever you like)
- Taskbar like Gnome-Panel
- "Homogenous" Look (Dunno if it's called like that in English) (GTK or QT)
- Wallpaper Functionality
- Nice and easy configuration of all kinds of things regarding the WM/DE
- Not relying on too many different programs (eg: Kombining XFCE and ROX would be already one Application Suite too much)

I guess I'd use GNOME but in my Opinion it is bloated and not that usable (eg configuring the Menu is kinda retarded (Not able to change the Category Icons in an easy and quick manner)

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#2 2006-12-21 22:12:13

Gullible Jones
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

XFCE-svn sounds like it fits the bill pretty well. It's still rather incomplete though IMHO, and may be a bit buggy.

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#3 2006-12-21 22:15:12

Ichji
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

I never tried XFCE-svn because I thought that it might have too much in common with XFCE (*hate*) but I could at least give it a try thanks...

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#4 2006-12-21 22:25:43

Crooksey
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

Fluxbox ticks all those box's.

But it would have to be the gnome-panel running with fluxbox.


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#5 2006-12-21 22:27:01

phrakture
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

You can always "roll your own" - that is, run something like Openbox, and find a suitable panel application (there's like 20 or so floating around).  Wallpaper functionality can also be managed with a completely separate app as well....

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#6 2006-12-21 22:30:54

Ichji
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

phrakture wrote:

You can always "roll your own" - that is, run something like Openbox, and find a suitable panel application (there's like 20 or so floating around).  Wallpaper functionality can also be managed with a completely separate app as well....

Like I stated above I did not want to rely on multiple Applications like running that panel, using that Wallpaper Manager and this or that WM...


btw... XFCE4-svn is currently in an unusable state due to a corrupt package (namely that is thunar-svn)

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#7 2006-12-21 23:24:18

phrakture
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

Ichji wrote:

Like I stated above I did not want to rely on multiple Applications like running that panel, using that Wallpaper Manager and this or that WM...

They're always multiple applications.  Even in gnome and KDE.  (gnome-panel, kicker, etc etc)

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#8 2006-12-21 23:42:20

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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

Ichji wrote:

btw... XFCE4-svn is currently in an unusable state due to a corrupt package (namely that is thunar-svn)

http://people.os-zen.net/stonecrest/thu … pkg.tar.gz


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#9 2006-12-22 10:19:50

Ichji
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

phrakture wrote:
Ichji wrote:

Like I stated above I did not want to rely on multiple Applications like running that panel, using that Wallpaper Manager and this or that WM...

They're always multiple applications.  Even in gnome and KDE.  (gnome-panel, kicker, etc etc)

I am currently not able to express what I meant (at least in english)

It is just for example that at GNOME we have the GNOME Foundation and one big group of people working on it and if we compare that to the combination of fbpanel and blackbox (just an example) there we have the group developing fbpanel with a goal and we have the group developing blackbox also with a group and likely with an different approach. GNOME haves one group, one approach, one goal and most important guidelines to follow.

I hope I was at least capable to give you a glimpse of what I meant...

Oh and stonecrest thanks for the Link.

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#10 2006-12-22 10:32:46

STiAT
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

I simply use kde for example, and i get along great with this.
You can install language packs (i18n) for having kde translated into german (completely).
Shouldn't be too bad at all.


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#11 2006-12-22 10:54:34

Ichji
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

Xfce4-svn feels pretty promising so I'll get a hang on it for the next time.

Thanks for all your attention I guess the rumors are true (that the arch community is the friendliest wink )

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#12 2006-12-22 11:56:15

STiAT
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

Hmh, i never got along with xfce, but i guess that's why there's not just one wm, so we can choose.
I never found a text editor for gtk2 which fits my needs... just a simple thing, still - very difficult.

And yes, arch community is definitely the friendliest i've hit so far, from all i've seen in the past 8 years (gentoo, slackware, ubuntu, fedora, suse, mandrake, debian).
One reason why i'm still here .. smile.


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#13 2006-12-22 14:03:57

Basu
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Re: Looking for a specific WM/DE

@STiAT: You might want to try out cream for gvim. Not exactly GTK, but you might like it.


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