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#1 2023-06-18 23:30:28

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[SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

I don't know why become too slow. was not like this. Someone can help me? Thanks in Advance.

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#2 2023-06-19 00:06:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

check your journal for useful info

journalctl -b

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Journal

and/or run the effected programs from a terminal and see if there is any useful info or errors

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#3 2023-06-19 01:31:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

Define too slow? 500 mSec? 20 Sec?


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#4 2023-06-19 02:10:08

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

the browser open in 30s

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#5 2023-06-19 02:11:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

jonno2002 wrote:

check your journal for useful info

journalctl -b

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Journal

and/or run the effected programs from a terminal and see if there is any useful info or errors

the output

Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
      Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal', 'wheel' can see all messages.
      Pass -q to turn off this notice.
Jun 18 23:01:31 alfheim systemd[401]: Queued start job for default target Main User Target.
Jun 18 23:01:31 alfheim systemd[401]: Created slice User Application Slice.
Jun 18 23:01:31 alfheim systemd[401]: Reached target Paths.
Jun 18 23:01:31 alfheim systemd[401]: Reached target Timers.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[410]: GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/1000/keyring
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting D-Bus User Message Bus Socket...
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GnuPG network certificate management daemon.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GCR ssh-agent wrapper.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GNOME Keyring daemon.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GnuPG cryptographic agent and passphrase cache (access for web browsers).
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GnuPG cryptographic agent and passphrase cache (restricted).
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GnuPG cryptographic agent (ssh-agent emulation).
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on GnuPG cryptographic agent and passphrase cache.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on p11-kit server.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System Socket.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on Sound System.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Listening on D-Bus User Message Bus Socket.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Reached target Sockets.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Reached target Basic System.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Reached target Main User Target.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Startup finished in 217ms.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Started GNOME Keyring daemon.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Created slice User Core Session Slice.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting D-Bus User Message Bus...
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim systemd[401]: Started D-Bus User Message Bus.
Jun 18 23:01:32 alfheim sddm-helper[416]: Adding cookie to "/home/rafa/.Xauthority"
Jun 18 23:01:34 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Daemon' unit='gvfs-daemon.service' requested by '>
Jun 18 23:01:34 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Virtual filesystem service...
Jun 18 23:01:34 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Daemon'
Jun 18 23:01:34 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Virtual filesystem service.
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.a11y.Bus' unit='at-spi-dbus-bus.service' requested by ':1>
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Accessibility services bus...
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.a11y.Bus'
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Accessibility services bus.
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim at-spi-bus-launcher[451]: dbus-daemon[451]: Activating service name='org.a11y.atspi.Registry' requested by ':1.0' (uid=1000 pid=416 comm="cinnam>
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim at-spi-bus-launcher[451]: dbus-daemon[451]: Successfully activated service 'org.a11y.atspi.Registry'
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim at-spi-bus-launcher[454]: SpiRegistry daemon is running with well-known name - org.a11y.atspi.Registry
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[410]: The Secret Service was already initialized
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-d[410]: The Secret Service was already initialized
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[461]: discover_other_daemon: 1
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[410]: The PKCS#11 component was already initialized
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-d[410]: The PKCS#11 component was already initialized
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[462]: discover_other_daemon: 1
Jun 18 23:01:35 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[463]: discover_other_daemon: 1
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='ca.desrt.dconf' unit='dconf.service' requested by ':1.18' (ui>
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-udisks2-volume-m>
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting User preferences database...
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor...
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'ca.desrt.dconf'
Jun 18 23:01:36 alfheim systemd[401]: Started User preferences database.
Jun 18 23:01:38 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Sound Service...
Jun 18 23:01:40 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor'
Jun 18 23:01:40 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor.
Jun 18 23:01:42 alfheim pulseaudio[579]: stat('/etc/pulse/default.pa.d'): No such file or directory
Jun 18 23:01:42 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Sound Service.
Jun 18 23:01:50 alfheim cinnamon-killer-daemon[684]: Bound Cinnamon restart to <Control><Alt>Escape.
Jun 18 23:01:52 alfheim cinnamon-session[416]: WARNING: t+16.93170s: Detected that screensaver has appeared on the bus
Jun 18 23:01:54 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' unit='gvfs-metadata.service' requested >
Jun 18 23:01:54 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Virtual filesystem metadata service...
Jun 18 23:01:54 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata'
Jun 18 23:01:54 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Virtual filesystem metadata service.
Jun 18 23:02:10 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop' unit='xdg-desktop-portal.serv>
Jun 18 23:02:10 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Portal service...
Jun 18 23:02:10 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.portal.Documents' unit='xdg-document-portal.s>
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting flatpak document portal service...
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore' unit='xdg-permis>
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting sandboxed app permission store...
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore'
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Started sandboxed app permission store.
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Documents'
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Started flatpak document portal service.
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.xapp' unit='xdg-desktop-p>
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Portal service (XApp implementation)...
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.xapp'
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Portal service (XApp implementation).
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim gnome-keyring-daemon[410]: asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/1, but it's already registered
Jun 18 23:02:11 alfheim gnome-keyring-d[410]: asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/1, but it's already registered
Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gnome' unit='xdg-desktop->
Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim systemd[401]: Current graphical user session is inactive.
Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim systemd[401]: Dependency failed for Portal service (GNOME implementation).
Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service: Job xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Jun 18 23:02:37 alfheim xdg-desktop-por[870]: Failed to create settings proxy: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gnome: Timeout w>
Jun 18 23:02:37 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk' unit='xdg-desktop-po>
Jun 18 23:02:37 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting Portal service (GTK/GNOME implementation)...
Jun 18 23:02:37 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk'
Jun 18 23:02:37 alfheim systemd[401]: Started Portal service (GTK/GNOME implementation).
Jun 18 23:02:41 alfheim cinnamon-session[416]: WARNING: t+65.74732s: Detected that screensaver has left the bus
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: start operation timed out. Terminating.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: Failed to start Portal service.
Jun 18 23:04:10 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop': timed out (service_start_timeout=12000>
Jun 18 23:04:12 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gnome': timed out (service_start_ti>
Jun 18 23:07:36 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.Terminal' unit='gnome-terminal-server.service' requ>
Jun 18 23:07:36 alfheim systemd[401]: Created slice Slice /app/org.gnome.Terminal.
Jun 18 23:07:36 alfheim systemd[401]: Starting GNOME Terminal Server...
Jun 18 23:07:37 alfheim dbus-daemon[415]: [session uid=1000 pid=415] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Terminal'
Jun 18 23:07:37 alfheim systemd[401]: Started GNOME Terminal Server.
Jun 18 23:07:37 alfheim systemd[401]: Started VTE child process 1528 launched by gnome-terminal-server process 1508.

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#6 2023-06-19 03:07:57

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: start operation timed out. Terminating.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: Failed to start Portal service.

are you using gnome ? if not then remove the 'xdg-desktop-portal' package, there are many threads about this recently

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#7 2023-06-19 03:45:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

jonno2002 wrote:
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: start operation timed out. Terminating.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
Jun 18 23:03:40 alfheim systemd[401]: Failed to start Portal service.

are you using gnome ? if not then remove the 'xdg-desktop-portal' package, there are many threads about this recently

I tried to remove but is required by cinnamon and flatpak

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#8 2023-06-19 04:22:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service: Job xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.

sorry try removing 'xdg-desktop-portal-gnome', if that doesnt work then try my other original suggestion

and/or run the effected programs from a terminal and see if there is any useful info or errors

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#9 2023-06-19 05:07:23

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

jonno2002 wrote:
Jun 18 23:02:12 alfheim systemd[401]: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service: Job xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service/start failed with result 'dependency'.

sorry try removing 'xdg-desktop-portal-gnome', if that doesnt work then try my other original suggestion

and/or run the effected programs from a terminal and see if there is any useful info or errors

ok thanks! Solve the issue with files compressed, but the browser opens in 20s. I don't know if it's because of the Vivaldi is to heavy to my system.

Last edited by frey (2023-06-19 05:10:32)

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#10 2023-06-19 06:08:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

the browser opens in 20s. I don't know if it's because of the Vivaldi is to heavy

was not like this.

1. has vivaldi previously opened faster?
2. reboot, open vivaldi and then, if it still lags, please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io

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#11 2023-06-19 12:25:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

seth wrote:

the browser opens in 20s. I don't know if it's because of the Vivaldi is to heavy

was not like this.

1. has vivaldi previously opened faster?
2. reboot, open vivaldi and then, if it still lags, please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io

1 only in the first time is too slow

output

http://ix.io/4yBK

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#12 2023-06-19 12:52:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

There're no apparent errors.
"ST500LT012-9WS142" is a spinner, you've <4GB RAM and a i3-3110M isn't the fastest processor.
Do subsequent starts of vivaldi take equally long?
How long precisely (until you see a window, not until vivaldi is ready)?
Is it faster w/ a fresh profile?

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#13 2023-06-19 13:02:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

seth wrote:

There're no apparent errors.
"ST500LT012-9WS142" is a spinner, you've <4GB RAM and a i3-3110M isn't the fastest processor.
Do subsequent starts of vivaldi take equally long?
How long precisely (until you see a window, not until vivaldi is ready)?
Is it faster w/ a fresh profile?

only in the first time takes at least 20s but after open in the first time when you close and open again is not too slow is very fast.

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#14 2023-06-19 13:06:16

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

Vivaldi is a chunky piece of software, loading all that from a not-so-fast HDD can take a moment.

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#15 2023-06-19 13:23:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

seth wrote:

Vivaldi is a chunky piece of software, loading all that from a not-so-fast HDD can take a moment.

Firefox was like this too.

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#16 2023-06-19 13:30:35

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

So? What are you trying to say?
There's no dbus timeout from xdg-portal anymore, did vivaldi previousy start faster and does it start faster w/ a fresh profile?

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#17 2023-06-19 13:37:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

seth wrote:

So? What are you trying to say?
There's no dbus timeout from xdg-portal anymore, did vivaldi previousy start faster and does it start faster w/ a fresh profile?

I don't know what you say with "fresh profile" please can you explain? Firefox was too slow too. If you reboot and start Vivaldi it takes 20s to open but after open for the first time if you close the browser and open again takes ~4-6s

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#18 2023-06-19 13:40:19

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

takes 20s to open but after open for the first time if you close the browser and open again takes ~4-6s

Because now the files are all in the cache.

Start vivaldi (slow), quit vivaldi.
Start vivaldi (fast), quit vivaldi.

echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

Start vivaldi => slow again?

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#19 2023-06-19 14:00:29

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

seth wrote:

takes 20s to open but after open for the first time if you close the browser and open again takes ~4-6s

Because now the files are all in the cache.

Start vivaldi (slow), quit vivaldi.
Start vivaldi (fast), quit vivaldi.

echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

Start vivaldi => slow again?

yes slow.

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#20 2023-06-19 14:01:46

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Re: [SOLVED] Why my Arch is too slow to open browser and compressed files?

"echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" drops the file caches and you've to read everything from the HDD again => the only cause is your slow HDD.

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