[SOLVED] Slow Startup for some applications with gnome wayland.

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 10:08:00

Happened recently where the startup of some applications like kitty terminal,chrome and firefox are very slow when you log in to the session from gdm.
The slow issue only occurs when logging in and after a 20 seconds these applications also start working normally.
No such issues on Xorg.
I'm new to Arch and have been trying to resolve this for some time now.
This is

 journalctl /usr/bin/gnomeshell

Dec 16 14:54:58 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Running GNOME Shell (using mutter 45.2) as a Wayland display server
Dec 16 14:54:58 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Failed to make thread 'KMS thread' realtime scheduled: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Name "org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1" does not exist
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Device '/dev/dri/card1' prefers shadow buffer
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Added device '/dev/dri/card1' (i915) using atomic mode setting.
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Created gbm renderer for '/dev/dri/card1'
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Boot VGA GPU /dev/dri/card1 selected as primary
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Obtained a high priority EGL context
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Obtained a high priority EGL context
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Using public X11 display :1024, (using :1025 for managed services)
Dec 16 14:54:59 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Using Wayland display name 'wayland-0'
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Unset XDG_SESSION_ID, getCurrentSessionProxy() called outside a user session. Asking logind directly.
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Will monitor session 1
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension apps-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/apps-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/apps-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension auto-move-windows@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/auto-move-windows@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/auto-move-windows@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension drive-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/drive-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/drive-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension launch-new-instance@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/launch-new-instance@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/launch-new-instance@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension light-style@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/light-style@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/light-style@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension native-window-placement@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/native-window-placement@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/native-window-placement@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension places-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/places-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/places-menu@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension screenshot-window-sizer@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/screenshot-window-sizer@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/screenshot-window-sizer@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension window-list@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/window-list@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/window-list@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension windowsNavigator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/windowsNavigator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/windowsNavigator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension workspace-indicator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/workspace-indicator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/workspace-indicator@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Extension unite@hardpixel.eu already installed in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/unite@hardpixel.eu. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/unite@hardpixel.eu will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii org.gnome.Shell.desktop[668]: Window manager warning: Failed to parse saved session file: Failed to open file “/var/lib/gdm/.config/mutter/sessions/10d57dd4feee4b07cd170272049862338300000006420000.ms”: No such file or directory
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Failed to launch ibus-daemon: Failed to execute child process “ibus-daemon” (No such file or directory)
Dec 16 14:55:00 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Error looking up permission: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.NotFound: No entry for geolocation
Dec 16 14:55:01 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Failed to launch ibus-daemon: Failed to execute child process “ibus-daemon” (No such file or directory)
Dec 16 14:55:01 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Registering session with GDM
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Running GNOME Shell (using mutter 45.2) as a Wayland display server
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Made thread 'KMS thread' realtime scheduled
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Device '/dev/dri/card1' prefers shadow buffer
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Added device '/dev/dri/card1' (i915) using atomic mode setting.
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Created gbm renderer for '/dev/dri/card1'
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Boot VGA GPU /dev/dri/card1 selected as primary
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Obtained a high priority EGL context
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Obtained a high priority EGL context
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Using public X11 display :0, (using :1 for managed services)
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Using Wayland display name 'wayland-0'
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff56 with keysym ff56 (keycode 75).
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff55 with keysym ff55 (keycode 70).
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff56 with keysym ff56 (keycode 75).
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff55 with keysym ff55 (keycode 70).
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Unset XDG_SESSION_ID, getCurrentSessionProxy() called outside a user session. Asking logind directly.
Dec 16 14:55:06 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Will monitor session 3
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff56 with keysym ff56 (keycode 75).
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff55 with keysym ff55 (keycode 70).
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Extension user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com already installed in /home/redox/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com. /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com will not be loaded
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Could not issue 'GetUnit' systemd call
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Failed to launch ibus-daemon: Failed to execute child process “ibus-daemon” (No such file or directory)
Dec 16 14:55:07 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Error looking up permission: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.NotFound: No entry for geolocation
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: [pano] [extension] extension is initialized
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: [pano] [extension] extension is enabled
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: [x11gestures@joseexposito.github.io] Extension enabled
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: [x11gestures@joseexposito.github.io] This extension is only for X11
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 36 with keysym 36 (keycode f).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 33 with keysym 33 (keycode c).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 32 with keysym 32 (keycode b).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 37 with keysym 37 (keycode 10).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff56 with keysym ff56 (keycode 75).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 38 with keysym 38 (keycode 11).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 31 with keysym 31 (keycode a).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 39 with keysym 39 (keycode 12).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 35 with keysym 35 (keycode e).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 34 with keysym 34 (keycode d).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff55 with keysym ff55 (keycode 70).
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: JS ERROR: TypeError: this._prepareStartupAnimation() is undefined
                                         _loadBackground/signalId</id<@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/layout.js:693:26
                                         @resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/init.js:21:20
Dec 16 14:55:08 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received multiple virtual 0x1d key releases (ignoring)
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Could not issue 'GetUnit' systemd call
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Failed to launch ibus-daemon: Failed to execute child process “ibus-daemon” (No such file or directory)
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: GNOME Shell started at Sat Dec 16 2023 14:55:07 GMT+0500 (Pakistan Standard Time)
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Registering session with GDM
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Connection to xwayland lost
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Xwayland terminated, exiting since it was mandatory
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: JS ERROR: Gio.IOErrorEnum: Xwayland exited unexpectedly
                                        @resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/init.js:21:20
Dec 16 14:55:09 Ahmii gnome-shell[668]: Execution of main.js threw exception: Module resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/init.js threw an exception
Dec 16 14:55:11 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received error from D-Bus search provider firefox.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mozilla.firefox.SearchProvider was not provided by any .service files
Dec 16 14:55:12 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received error from D-Bus search provider firefox.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mozilla.firefox.SearchProvider was not provided by any .service files
Dec 16 14:55:12 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received error from D-Bus search provider firefox.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mozilla.firefox.SearchProvider was not provided by any .service files
Dec 16 14:55:19 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received error from D-Bus search provider firefox.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mozilla.firefox.SearchProvider was not provided by any .service files
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Received error from D-Bus search provider firefox.desktop: Gio.DBusError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.mozilla.firefox.SearchProvider was not provided by any .service files
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <unnamed>[<Gjs_dash-to-dock_micxgx_gmail_com_docking_DashSlideContainer>:0x564d32b47310] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <dashtodockBox>[<StBoxLayout>:0x564d32b48120] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <dash>[<Gjs_dash-to-dock_micxgx_gmail_com_dash_DockDash>:0x564d32b2b710] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <unnamed>[<StWidget>:0x564d32b423e0] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <unnamed>[<ClutterActor>:0x564d32b42f70] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <dashtodockDashContainer>[<StBoxLayout>:0x564d32b2c6a0] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <dashtodockDashScrollview>[<StScrollView>:0x564d32b2d5a0] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:20 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Can't update stage views actor <unnamed>[<StBoxLayout>:0x564d32b33d80] is on because it needs an allocation.
Dec 16 14:55:32 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Error connecting to the screencast service
Dec 16 14:59:26 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x140000e
Dec 16 14:59:26 Ahmii gnome-shell[1282]: Could not create transient scope for PID 3610: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnixProcessIdUnknown: Failed to set unit properties: No such process

Last edited by Redox_ahmii (2023-12-17 12:20:02)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2023-12-16 10:25:52

What does "slow" mean, exactly? Is there a delay on startup or do you mean their operation is slow? If the latter, how are you quantifying the speed? What, exactly, is performing less well than you would expect? EDIT: slow startup, as per the thread title.

Those EGL messages in the log lead me to suspect you have an NVIDIA card, is that the case?

lspci -knn -d ::03xx

NVIDIA's support for EGL is pretty poor. Does rolling back the proprietary driver improve things?

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2023-12-16 10:30:13)

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 10:43:48

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What does "slow" mean, exactly? Is there a delay on startup or do you mean their operation is slow? If the latter, how are you quantifying the speed? What, exactly, is performing less well than you would expect? EDIT: slow startup, as per the thread title.
Those EGL messages in the log lead me to suspect you have an NVIDIA card, is that the case?
lspci -knn -d ::03xx
NVIDIA's support for EGL is pretty poor. Does rolling back the proprietary driver improve things?

No i have it installed on a laptop with Intell UHD Graphics

OS: Arch Linux x86_64
Host: Latitude 5490 
Kernel: 6.6.7-arch1-1 
Uptime: 2 mins 
Packages: 1085 (pacman), 12 (flatpak) 
Shell: zsh 5.9 
Resolution: 1920x1080 
DE: GNOME 45.2 
WM: Mutter 
WM Theme: Adwaita 
Theme: Adwaita-dark [GTK2/3]
Icons: Tela-circle [GTK2/3] 
Terminal: kitty 
CPU: Intel i5-8350U (8) @ 3.600GHz 
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 620 
Memory: 1854MiB / 7802MiB

Not all applications are slow on startup with wayland but a few as listed above take about 10 to 20 seconds.
Nautilus, System settings or Gnome console(kgx) open immediately.
Once those initial 10 to 20 seconds on startup are passed and the applications open if i close them and open again they start working normally again as in they open up immediately.
Happens only when i initially login from gdm into the wayland session.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2023-12-16 10:57:04

Ah yes, I see i915 very clearly in the logs. I really need to work on my reading skills.

Can we see the full journal? Excepts can miss important context.

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 11:11:26

Complete log for command

sudo journalctl -b

https://0x0.st/HYm3.txt

seth · 2023-12-16 13:30:33

1. You've multiple network agents enabled concurrently. NM and systemd-networkd and resolved and avahi both want to handle avahi, the latter likely because of fwupd and this clusterfuck here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/79897
=> remove fwupd and this passim or disable mdns resolution for resolved, then choose between NM and networkd and disable the other

2.

Dec 16 16:07:07 Ahmii kernel: [drm] Initialized simpledrm 1.0.0 20200625 for simple-framebuffer.0 on minor 0

Enable https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … de_setting and in doubt add "initcall_blacklist=simpledrm_platform_driver_init" to the https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_parameters (it doesn't matter that you don't have an nvidia GPU, the modesetting parameter will act as a hack to disable the simpledrm device)

Report back with an updated journal after fixing those.

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 17:24:50

seth wrote:

1. You've multiple network agents enabled concurrently. NM and systemd-networkd and resolved and avahi both want to handle avahi, the latter likely because of fwupd and this clusterfuck here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/79897
=> remove fwupd and this passim or disable mdns resolution for resolved, then choose between NM and networkd and disable the other
2.
Dec 16 16:07:07 Ahmii kernel: [drm] Initialized simpledrm 1.0.0 20200625 for simple-framebuffer.0 on minor 0
Enable https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … de_setting and in doubt add "initcall_blacklist=simpledrm_platform_driver_init" to the https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_parameters (it doesn't matter that you don't have an nvidia GPU, the modesetting parameter will act as a hack to disable the simpledrm device)
Report back with an updated journal after fixing those.

Removed fwupd and passim.

 sudo pacman -R fwupd passim

Disabled systemd.networkd

 sudo systemctl disable systemd.networkd.service

And added those lines to the kernel parameters in my /etc/default/grub file and did grub-mkconfig

This is the journalctl after command

 sudo journalctl -b

https://0x0.st/HYBh.txt

Edit: Forgot to add the issue still remains and if i made some mistake in deleting passim do inform me.

Last edited by Redox_ahmii (2023-12-16 17:28:39)

seth · 2023-12-16 18:50:27

iwd and wpa_supplicant are now running.
Please post the output of

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

Also you've wireplumber and pulseaudio running, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWi … io_clients

Since FF is affected, are you using https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#Wayland ?

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 19:15:51

seth wrote:

iwd and wpa_supplicant are now running.
Please post the output of
find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f
Also you've wireplumber and pulseaudio running, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWi … io_clients
Since FF is affected, are you using https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#Wayland ?

The output of the command is

bluetooth.service                        | bluetooth.target.wants
choose-mirror.service                    | multi-user.target.wants
cloud-config.service                     | cloud-init.target.wants
cloud-final.service                      | cloud-init.target.wants
cloud-init-local.service                 | cloud-init.target.wants
cloud-init.service                       | cloud-init.target.wants
cups.path                                | multi-user.target.wants
cups.service                             | printer.target.wants
cups.socket                              | sockets.target.wants
dbus-org.bluez.service                   | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service    | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.timesync1.service   | system
default.target                           | system
display-manager.service                  | system
gcr-ssh-agent.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
getty@tty1.service                       | getty.target.wants
gnome-keyring-daemon.socket              | sockets.target.wants
iwd.service                              | multi-user.target.wants
livecd-alsa-unmuter.service              | sound.target.wants
livecd-talk.service                      | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager.service                   | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager-wait-online.service       | network-online.target.wants
p11-kit-server.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pacman-init.service                      | multi-user.target.wants
pipewire-session-manager.service         | user
pipewire.socket                          | sockets.target.wants
pulseaudio.socket                        | sockets.target.wants
remote-fs.target                         | multi-user.target.wants
sshd.service                             | multi-user.target.wants
systemd-resolved.service                 | multi-user.target.wants
systemd-timesyncd.service                | sysinit.target.wants
touchegg.service                         | multi-user.target.wants
vboxservice.service                      | multi-user.target.wants
wireplumber.service                      | pipewire.service.wants
xdg-user-dirs-update.service             | default.target.wants

For wireplumber and pulseaudio it breaks multiple dependencies which is why i have them running simultaneously. wireplumber is required by some gnome applications. Most audio utilities used are pulseaudio's and would appreciate help in deleting one completely and only use one.

 sudo pacman -Rss pipewire
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: removing pipewire breaks dependency 'pipewire' required by gnome-remote-desktop
:: removing pipewire breaks dependency 'pipewire' required by gst-plugin-pipewire
:: removing pipewire breaks dependency 'pipewire' required by mutter-dynamic-buffering
:: removing pipewire breaks dependency 'pipewire' required by wireplumber
:: removing pipewire breaks dependency 'pipewire' required by xdg-desktop-portal

sudo pacman -Rss pulseaudio
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: removing pulseaudio breaks dependency 'pulse-native-provider' required by gnome-settings-daemon
:: removing pulseaudio breaks dependency 'pulseaudio' required by pulseaudio-alsa
:: removing pulseaudio breaks dependency 'pulseaudio=16.1-7' required by pulseaudio-bluetooth
:: removing pulseaudio breaks dependency 'pulseaudio=16.1-7' required by pulseaudio-equalizer
:: removing pulseaudio breaks dependency 'pulseaudio' required by pulseaudio-equalizer-ladspa

and i do not have Firefox configured like that but what i did notice using extramaus AUR package to check which applications are running on wayland it is apparently all of the applications are on Xwayland.(The information might not be relevant but i decided to include it)

seth · 2023-12-16 19:34:33

sudo pacman -Rss pulseaudio

Nobody suggested anything like that, install pipewire-pulse, disable iwd, (in doubt see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … Fi_backend ) and

choose-mirror.service
…
livecd-alsa-unmuter.service              | sound.target.wants
livecd-talk.service                      | multi-user.target.wants

wtf is the archiso stuff active? How did you install archlinux?

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-16 20:01:54

seth wrote:

sudo pacman -Rss pulseaudio
Nobody suggested anything like that, install pipewire-pulse, disable iwd, (in doubt see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Networ … Fi_backend ) and
choose-mirror.service
…
livecd-alsa-unmuter.service              | sound.target.wants
livecd-talk.service                      | multi-user.target.wants
wtf is the archiso stuff active? How did you install archlinux?

Archiso which is an old graphical installer. Needed a fast install and archinstall script provides too low speeds for download in my region even when using reflector so it was the last alternative.
For iwd there is no file in /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/ which should mean it is disabled from the wiki you provided.
should i just reinstall it through cli again? i have a lot of stuff configured but it is better to have a properly functioning system rather than going through the pain of configuring again.
Last alternative is to just use Xorg and ditch Wayland.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2023-12-16 20:07:19

Redox_ahmii wrote:

should i just reinstall it through cli again?

You will have to if you want to seek support here. Archiso is not supported and you really should have mentioned that in the OP to stop wasting our time. We have no idea how the Archiso installer works.

seth · 2023-12-16 20:13:01

which should mean it is disabled from the wiki you provided.

No, that's entirely not what that means.

i have a lot of stuff configured but it is better to have a properly functioning system rather than going through the pain of configuring again.

You'll not get around reading up the stuff you skippedto get a modest idea what you're doing and

Archiso which is an old graphical installer

WTF is that supposed to be? Link?
"Archiso" is https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archiso and that has absolutely NOTHING to do with installing archlinux (except "create a customized install iso to then install arch from that)

Redox_ahmii · 2023-12-17 12:18:31

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Redox_ahmii wrote:
should i just reinstall it through cli again?
You will have to if you want to seek support here. Archiso is not supported and you really should have mentioned that in the OP to stop wasting our time. We have no idea how the Archiso installer works.

Thank you fro the info i will reinstall cleanly again instead of using crutches for installation. For me the installation failed numerously using archinstall and even without it due to poor speeds in downloads which does not happen afterwards so i am confused about that aswell. I will reinstall it. Thanks for the time.

seth · 2023-12-17 15:20:18

Don't use archinstall either, follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide and make sure to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Instal … he_mirrors

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