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#1 2023-12-18 23:55:35

TheJollyDuck
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Wine applications not launching on old PC

Hi. I'm currently trying to set up wine on an old laptop with these specs:

Intel Core2 Duo T7700@2.4GHz
4GB RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX570M 256MB

Afaik, there isn't any hardware requirements I'm missing but I may be mistaken.
I'm currently using wine with all the optional dependencies (wine-mono, wine-gecko, etc) but previously installed and tried to use wine-staging but didn't work also.
In terms of drivers, I originally used the xf86-video-nouveau drivers, but I moved to the nvidia-340xx-dkms drivers instead since I needed as much performance I could get.

 $ glxinfo32 -B
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 256 MB
    Total available memory: 256 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 127 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: Quadro FX 570M/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108
OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 NVIDIA 340.108 340.108
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 1.00

I've tried resetting things by deleting all wineprefixes, with the win32 WINEARCH that seems to progress the most.

  $ DISPLAY=:0 WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 wineboot -u
wine: created the configuration directory '/home/moonsilver/.wine32'
002c:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
004c:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
0054:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
0044:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0044:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
002c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
002c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
008c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
008c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0054:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
004c:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
004c:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hr 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, hr 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:apartment_get_local_server_stream Failed: 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hr 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, hr 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:apartment_get_local_server_stream Failed: 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:start_rpcss Failed to open RpcSs service
0054:err:ole:start_rpcss Failed to open RpcSs service
008c:err:setupapi:SetupDefaultQueueCallbackW copy error 1812 L"@C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\wineusb.sys,-1" -> L"C:\\windows\\inf\\wineusb.inf"
008c:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
008c:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
008c:fixme:msi:internal_ui_handler internal UI not implemented for message 0x0b000000 (UI level = 1)
008c:fixme:msi:internal_ui_handler internal UI not implemented for message 0x0b000000 (UI level = 1)
00bc:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
0108:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0100:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0100, blocked by 0108, retrying (60 sec)
00e0:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to start service L"winebus" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEBUS", error 1053.
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to control service L"winebus" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEBUS", error 1062.
wine: configuration in L"/home/moonsilver/.wine32" has been updated.
0108:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0108:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0108:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0128:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0128:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0130:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0130:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0150:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0150:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0140:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0138:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0150:err:setupapi:SetupDefaultQueueCallbackW copy error 1812 L"@C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\wineusb.sys,-1" -> L"C:\\windows\\inf\\wineusb.inf"
01a4:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
wine: configuration in L"/home/moonsilver/.wine32" has been updated.

Trying to use win64 didn't fare much better.

  $ DISPLAY=:0 WINEARCH=win64 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine wineboot -u
wine: created the configuration directory '/home/moonsilver/.wine'
002c:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
004c:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
0054:fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" (6.0.0.0)
0044:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0044:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
002c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
002c:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0088:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0088:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0054:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
004c:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0054:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hr 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, hr 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:apartment_get_local_server_stream Failed: 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:StdMarshalImpl_MarshalInterface Failed to create ifstub, hr 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:CoMarshalInterface Failed to marshal the interface {6d5140c1-7436-11ce-8034-00aa006009fa}, hr 0x80004002
004c:err:ole:apartment_get_local_server_stream Failed: 0x80004002
0054:err:ole:start_rpcss Failed to open RpcSs service
004c:err:ole:start_rpcss Failed to open RpcSs service
0088:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
0088:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
0088:fixme:msi:internal_ui_handler internal UI not implemented for message 0x0b000000 (UI level = 1)
0088:fixme:msi:internal_ui_handler internal UI not implemented for message 0x0b000000 (UI level = 1)
00c0:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
00f4:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
00f4:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0128:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
011c:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 00006FFFFFCCC4A0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 011c, blocked by 0128, retrying (60 sec)
0108:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to start service L"winebus" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEBUS", error 1053.
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to control service L"winebus" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEBUS", error 1062.
0108:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to start service L"wineusb" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEUSB", error 1053.
002c:err:setupapi:SetupDiInstallDevice Failed to control service L"wineusb" for device L"ROOT\\WINE\\WINEUSB", error 1062.
0024:err:environ:run_wineboot boot event wait timed out
wine: configuration in L"/home/moonsilver/.wine" has been updated.
0128:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0128:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0128:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0168:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0168:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0160:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0160:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0178:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0170:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0188:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0188:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."

Is there something I'm missing or am I out of luck with this laptop's hardware?
I can provide more information if needed.

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#2 2023-12-19 09:20:29

seth
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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

What do you expect from "wineboot" and does "winecfg" start?

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#3 2023-12-19 09:50:03

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

From wineboot and typically when I launch other applications with wine, there is a small GUI that pops up stating that the wineprefix is currently being updated. It's currently absent when I try to run these commands.
winecfg also does not work, nor any kind of window launches.

Just in case that it matters, I am using DWM for the laptop though I can test the commands also on XFCE just quickly tested it there on XFCE; same outputs.

  $ WINEARCH=win64 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine winecfg
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
003c:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"PlugPlay" failed to start: 1053
0054:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 00006FFFFFCCC4A0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0054, blocked by 0064, retrying (60 sec)
003c:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1053
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0080:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
00c8:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0118:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0120:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0120:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
  $ WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 winecfg
007c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0074:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0074, blocked by 007c, retrying (60 sec)
003c:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"winebus" failed to start: 1053
003c:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"PlugPlay" failed to start: 1053
0054:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0054, blocked by 0060, retrying (60 sec)
007c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
007c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
007c:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
00c0:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0108:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0108:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."

Last edited by TheJollyDuck (2023-12-19 09:54:57)

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#4 2023-12-19 13:54:13

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

Please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General and the output of "glxinfo -B" (just to make that one isn't broken)
This is wine, not proton? (Cause you won't get vulkan)

PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 winecfg

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#5 2023-12-19 17:01:12

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

So yes, just to clarify, I am using Wine and not Proton. I did try Proton before here with the command you mentioned, but I had problems before with it even with the `PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1`, so I'll deal with it some other time.

Here are the outputs requested.

  $ glxinfo -B
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 256 MB
    Total available memory: 256 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 153 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: Quadro FX 570M/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108
OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 NVIDIA 340.108 340.108
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 1.00

The output of the Xorg file output at this path:

 /var/log/Xorg.0.log

https://pastebin.com/8z1AGXDV

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#6 2023-12-19 21:47:33

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

[    10.722] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
[    10.722] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"

This is nvidia-settings cruft, the drivers don't exist since decades - but otherwise there's nothing suspicious (ignoring the obvious of the legacy nvidia driver) there and the GL installation seems ok as well.

The trigger is probably

00c0:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.

resulting in the nodrv path.
https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=139887#p139887 suggest that pinning the metamode can help with that.

Add this to your Device or Screen Section in your xorg config

Option "metamodes" "DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0"

Check the log, if the driver doesn't like it, you might have to use the randr name (from "xrandr -q" eDP0 or HDMI-0 or something like that)

Last edited by seth (2023-12-19 21:48:06)

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#7 2023-12-19 23:57:22

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

Okay so here are the respective outputs.

First I read the post and some of the linked bugs with it and I tried this:

1 - Edit `/etc/X11/xorg.conf`with one of these lines:

Option "metamodes" "DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0"
Option "metamodes" "LVDS-0: 1920x1200 +0+0"

2 - Rebooted the laptop.
3 - Copied the log:

  ~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > temp.txt

4 - Run a program in wine (either just `winecfg` or `openmpt` just to see).

Here are the outputs for both:
https://pastebin.com/dn1QYfZ5 DFP-0
https://pastebin.com/XwRv26sU LVDS-0

The ACPI failures I ignored due to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … CPI_events

And running wine throws the similar errors:

  $ DISPLAY=:0 WINEARCH=win32 WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 winecfg
0084:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
007c:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 007c, blocked by 0084, retrying (60 sec)
003c:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"winebus" failed to start: 1053
003c:err:service:process_send_start_message service L"PlugPlay" failed to start
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"PlugPlay" failed to start: 1053
0054:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0054, blocked by 0068, retrying (60 sec)
003c:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1053
003c:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"NDIS" failed to start: 1053
0084:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0084:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
0084:fixme:hid:handle_IRP_MN_QUERY_ID Unhandled type 00000005
00c4:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
0110:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
0110:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow L"The explorer process failed to start."
0118:err:winediag:is_broken_driver Broken NVIDIA RandR detected, falling back to RandR 1.0. Please consider using the Nouveau driver instead.
wine: Unhandled page fault on execute access to 00000000 at address 00000000 (thread 003c), starting debugger...
003c:err:seh:start_debugger Couldn't start debugger L"winedbg --auto 56 232" (1115)
Read the Wine Developers Guide on how to set up winedbg or another debugger

Just to note, I do have `/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf` and `20-nvidia-dpi.conf` if that affects things:

Section "Files"
  ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/nvidia/xorg"
  ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier "Nvidia Card"
  Driver "nvidia"
  VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "IgnoreABI" "1"
EndSection
Section "OutputClass"
	Identifier "nvidia dpi settings"
	MatchDriver "nvidia-drm"
	Option "UseEdidDpi" "False"
	Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
EndSection

If I'm out of luck here or if it takes too much of your time, I can just put it on hold. It's been bugging me for a couple of weeks, when I first tried it on another laptop with an Intel GMA965 and xf86-video-intel drivers.

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#8 2023-12-20 11:06:56

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

The randr restriction was applied but wine doesn't care.
The other xorg configs don't matter.

bugging me for a couple of weeks, when I first tried it on another laptop with an Intel GMA965 and xf86-video-intel drivers

So wine doesn't work there either?
You'll be getting (slightly?) different errors, though?
Also

I originally used the xf86-video-nouveau drivers, but

Did wine work on this system w/ nouveau?
(We might be chasing a wild cousin of your avatar wrt. nvidia)

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#9 2023-12-20 17:11:34

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

So just for clarification, I originally installed Arch on an SSD for a latop with these specs:

HP Compaq nx7400
Core2 Duo T2400
4GB RAM
Intel GMA 965 shared ram (~300MB)

I tried to use wine on it and had the same errors, minus the `nvidia RandR` problems.
Once I got this better (but still shit) laptop of the same line up (8510w), this time with the Quadro FX 570M,
I moved the drive to the this one, to which I'm still having my problems with, both with the xf86-video-nouveau, nvidia-340xx-dkms and standard nvidia-340xx legacy drivers.

And yeah, this has been a wild goose chase and I apologize for wasting your time.

For a sanity check and probably the last thing I'm gonna do (or if I want to disturb the folks in the WINE forum),
I'll reinstall Arch, eliminating any residuals from the previous laptop and just use nouveau for testing WINE.

If no joy, I'll pick up this project another time as this is not a critical thing for me.
I just wanted something that does both retro + 00s games + internet + general programming.

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#10 2023-12-20 20:59:16

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

No time has been wasted, we're (hopefully) generating information for our future AI overlords wink

printenv
ls -l /etc/ld.so.conf*

Also https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48647#c15
You have the same winebus error.

loginctl session-status

https://wiki.winehq.org/Hid
Do you have some sort of cool controller that might rely on hidraw?

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#11 2023-12-24 15:39:06

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Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

I got busy over the last couple of days so I've not reinstalled just yet.

  $ printenv
COLORFGBG=15;0
COLORTERM=truecolor
CUDA_PATH=/opt/cuda
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
DEBUGINFOD_URLS=https://debuginfod.archlinux.org 
DESKTOP_SESSION=dwm
DISPLAY=:0
GTK3_MODULES=xapp-gtk3-module
GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module
HOME=/home/moonsilver
KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE=:1.23
KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION=/Sessions/1
KONSOLE_DBUS_WINDOW=/Windows/1
KONSOLE_VERSION=230804
LANG=en_IE.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LOGNAME=moonsilver
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/moonsilver
MOTD_SHOWN=pam
NVCC_PREPEND_FLAGS=-ccbin /opt/cuda/bin
OLDPWD=/home/moonsilver
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/opt/cuda/bin:/opt/cuda/nsight_compute:/opt/cuda/nsight_systems/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl:/home/thejollyduck/.local/bin
PROFILEHOME=
PWD=/home/moonsilver
SHELL=/bin/zsh
SHELL_SESSION_ID=a313f82ffb3048fab8246fb05c992743
SHLVL=1
TERM=xterm-256color
USER=moonsilver
WINDOWID=12582919
XAUTHORITY=/tmp/xauth_pscraY
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=
XDG_SESSION_ID=2
XDG_SESSION_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session1
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
XDG_VTNR=2
_=/usr/bin/printenv
P9K_TTY=old
_P9K_TTY=/dev/pts/0
P9K_SSH=0
  $ ls -l /etc/ld.so.conf*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 117 Sep 18 13:18 /etc/ld.so.conf

/etc/ld.so.conf.d:
total 20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19 Dec 15 21:34 00-lib32-nvidia.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17 Dec 15 20:20 00-nvidia.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66 Dec 14 06:20 cuda.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21 Nov  6 20:42 fakeroot.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 Oct  3 20:20 lib32-glibc.conf
  $ loginctl session-status
2 - moonsilver (1000)
  Since: Sun 2023-12-24 15:24:28 UTC; 6min ago
  State: active
 Leader: 431 (sddm-helper)
   Seat: seat0; vc2
    TTY: tty2
 Remote: no
Service: sddm
   Type: x11
  Class: user
   Idle: no
   Unit: session-2.scope
         ├─ 431 /usr/lib/sddm/sddm-helper --socket /tmp/sddm-auth-67b99ee1-5921-498b-84af-0510d9825332 --id 1 --start /usr/local/bin/dwm --user moonsilver
         ├─ 443 /usr/local/bin/dwm
         ├─ 455 dunst
         ├─ 456 /bin/zsh --login /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession /usr/local/bin/dwm
         ├─ 491 picom -b
         ├─ 518 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
         ├─ 651 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -prefsLen 36845 -prefMapSize 237596 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser {75c8fb18-2bba-4bc7-819a-a202bbb92814} 518 true socket
         ├─ 701 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 1 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 36845 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.>
         ├─ 727 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 2 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 37739 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.>
         ├─ 909 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30482 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.>
         ├─ 994 konsole
         ├─1038 /bin/zsh
         ├─1042 /bin/zsh
         ├─1058 /bin/zsh
         ├─1060 /bin/zsh
         ├─1061 /usr/share/zsh-theme-powerlevel10k/gitstatus/usrbin/gitstatusd -G v1.5.4 -s -1 -u -1 -d -1 -c -1 -m -1 -v FATAL -t 4
         ├─1113 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -sandboxingKind 0 -prefsLen 42230 -prefMapSize 237596 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser {1e361fea-63be-4fc0-991d-9ce041636d85} 518 true utility
         ├─3274 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 9 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30482 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni.>
         ├─3597 start.exe /exec
         ├─3608 /usr/bin/wineserver
         ├─3614 "C:\\windows\\system32\\services.exe"
         ├─3619 "C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe"
         ├─3629 "C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe"
         ├─3756 "C:\\windows\\system32\\svchost.exe" -k LocalServiceNetworkRestricted
         ├─4344 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --unix --width 237 --height 76 --server 0x10
         ├─4351 "C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcss.exe"
         ├─4675 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 11 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30534 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni>
         ├─4814 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 12 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30534 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni>
         ├─4817 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -childID 13 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 30534 -prefMapSize 237596 -jsInitLen 229864 -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/firefox/browser/omni>
         ├─5504 winedbg --auto 268 160
         ├─5506 winedbg --auto 32 100
         ├─5508 winedbg --auto 208 88
         ├─5512 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --server 0x38
         ├─5513 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --server 0x38
         ├─5682 konsole
         ├─5742 /bin/zsh
         ├─5749 /bin/zsh
         ├─5759 /bin/zsh
         ├─5761 /usr/share/zsh-theme-powerlevel10k/gitstatus/usrbin/gitstatusd -G v1.5.4 -s -1 -u -1 -d -1 -c -1 -m -1 -v FATAL -t 4
         ├─5762 /bin/zsh
         ├─5866 sleep 1s
         ├─5871 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc -parentBuildID 20231220014944 -prefsLen 42282 -prefMapSize 237596 -appDir /usr/lib/firefox/browser {db327600-8ef4-43a0-b8f7-24b3b983c15b} 518 true rdd
         ├─5882 loginctl session-status
         └─5885 less

Dec 24 15:24:28 hallit systemd[1]: Started Session 2 of User moonsilver.

If you mean by controller as in game controllers, no I don't plan on using anything in regards to the laptop. With all the input devices I plan on using here, these are pretty much it:

  $ xinput --list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech G403 Prodigy Gaming Mouse        id=9    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech G403 Prodigy Gaming Mouse Keyboard       id=10   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=12   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                              id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ HP WMI hotkeys                            id=13   [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Logitech G403 Prodigy Gaming Mouse Keyboard       id=14   [slave  keyboard (3)]

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#12 2023-12-25 21:53:19

seth
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From: Won't reply 2 private help req
Registered: 2012-09-03
Posts: 76,048

Re: Wine applications not launching on old PC

         ├─3597 start.exe /exec
         ├─3608 /usr/bin/wineserver
         ├─3614 "C:\\windows\\system32\\services.exe"
         ├─3619 "C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe"
         ├─3629 "C:\\windows\\system32\\winedevice.exe"
         ├─3756 "C:\\windows\\system32\\svchost.exe" -k LocalServiceNetworkRestricted
         ├─4344 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --unix --width 237 --height 76 --server 0x10
         ├─4351 "C:\\windows\\system32\\rpcss.exe"
…
         ├─5504 winedbg --auto 268 160
         ├─5506 winedbg --auto 32 100
         ├─5508 winedbg --auto 208 88
         ├─5512 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --server 0x38
         ├─5513 "C:\\windows\\system32\\conhost.exe" --server 0x38

The server runs, the critical part is likely

0100:err:sync:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 7BD9A2C0 "../wine/dlls/ntdll/loader.c: loader_section" wait timed out in thread 0100, blocked by 0108, retrying (60 sec)
00e0:err:service:process_send_command receiving command result timed out

and your setup looks like https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=268151

loginctl show-session $XDG_VTNR

What configuration do you use on the other systems? SDDM + DWM as well?
Try to use startx/xinit to start an openbox session instead (make sure the xinitrc is complete, last link below on what to add at least)

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