[SOLVED]Replacing xorg with xwayland

jojo06 · 2024-01-11 19:15:21

I have both sway and hyprland installed. Im using nvidia right now. I was trying to use hyprland. And here i have some problems with it:

xprop is not working and i have some broken packages; in the output of `pacman -Qkk` i thought that was the issue.
But more than broken packages V1del said the problem was about;

xprop is a xorg server application, if you are running sway or hyprland for that matter it will only give you information on programs still running under xwayland, of the tools you mentioned discord is such an example that will still use xwayland and thus should work with xprop. Most other tools will not show up there

**Changin xorg to xwayland** it generally doesn't matter since you won't be able to do much when the displays are controlled by a wayland compositor -- "some" tools (minecraft e.g.) actually wants to use xrandr to query for screen resolutions however, so you might break things for no discernible gain.

Its all mixed/combined; even mako is not executed, its working. I guess its getting from sway in some way. I can use and see some sway commands but not they are not working properly. I mean its installed but broken, and also its conflicting with hyprland.
I can uninstall sway or its packages.

Packages: 1366 (pacman), 6 (flatpak)

Isnt it too much ?

Sorry for complicated subject here is the relavent about all: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p2142178
// mako and nvidia problem is solved.

How can i solve this ? Where should i start ?

Last edited by jojo06 (2024-01-11 22:42:19)

Trilby · 2024-01-11 19:29:03

If the problem is that xprop is not working, then there is no solution: it's not expected to work just as highlighted by V1del in the other thread. Xprop is an X11 utility to use with X11 sessions. You are not running an X11 session, so what use would you have for xprop?

Next you list something vaguely wrong with mako, but later you seem to say this is solved.

Your only real questions seems to be whether 1366 packages installed via pacman is "too much" - and the answer to that is certainly not. If you aren't using some of them you can remove them, but they cant do any harm simply by being installed and sitting on a disk (unless you are running out of disk space which you have not mentioned). You vaguely refer to "conflicting" but I don't think you are using this word properly - if the packages conflicted, you would not be able to install them in the first place. So I really have no idea what you actually mean by "conflicting" in this context.

Now I would say that 6 flatpak packages are too much. Six too many to be precise.

The only other question is how to solve "this" and where to start. But what is the "this" you are referring to?? xprop? Or do you mean the "some problems" with hyprland? Do you realize you haven't actually told us anything about any problems with hyprland?

PS: is English a second language? Are you using some translation tool to generate these posts? If so, what is your native language and what translation tools are you using?

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jojo06 · 2024-01-11 20:56:35

Its not working because im not using X11 session as you mentioned. I will use it for defining the firefox and such programs by id and define them to workspaces. (Im not talking about execution names like `exec firefox`) Also for system management purposes and xprop and is not working in wayland. I can run swaymsg but cant get output. I want to get rid of the sway packages and install the similars for xwayland. And change my system to xwayland with all. In this way im learning the Arch as well.

Yes, it was discord update like V1del said. And i thought there might be a problem because it was working differently than before. Mako was an example of some things are not working properly. Now im executing the mako at the startup but before i was not running but anyways it was able to work. Because its connected with sway.

How can i check the flatpak packages ?

The main issue and my goal is: Install a legit/clean/proper hyprland. With all the needed packages, problem-error free and adapt my system to it. I need to replace the sway packages such as `swaymsg` `xorg` and all on, change(uninstall/install) with hyprlands. I mean i just did `yay -S hyprland-git`. But sway is installed and its packages. While we are here what is the difference between hyprland and hyprland-git ?

PS: Sadly yes, its not my main language yet. And yes, not only this, im using `write` for improving writing. Its Turkish and im using DeepL. It was worse when im trying to translate from Turkish to English. Now im using `improve writing` with typing English. I dont get it, when translating yours it translate me nonsense. I have better understanding with reading them. *When i translate this sentence to Turkish its also not really good. And this stuff is hard to explain it in main language too. Because there is no some real words for it. Its not sample cases like `screen tearing` or `... is not launching` or `cant able to load ... module` so its hard to explain it tho. Focusing to explain its badly effecting my grammar and vocabulary too muchever i pay real attention; its taking some time to post. Even with all the effort; is it that bad ?

seth · 2024-01-11 21:01:10

want to get rid of the sway packages and install the similars for xwayland. And change my system to xwayland with all.

This is not a thing.
xwayland is a nested X11 server (a bit like Xephyr) to allow running X11 clients inside a wayland display server (sway)
sway is your xorg, so to speak.

jojo06 · 2024-01-11 21:16:06

I typed wrong; for xwayland i meant hyprland. Hm, how its going on in Arch install with hyprland than, in same way ? So there is no problem nor misconfiguration than ?

seth · 2024-01-11 21:20:51

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hyprland

So there is no problem nor misconfiguration then?

Why do you suspect there is? Have you installed hyprland? Did you try to run it?

Trilby · 2024-01-11 23:25:26

jojo06 wrote:

How can i check the flatpak packages?

I don't know. You can ignore my comments about flatpak. I dislike flatpak and I expect flatpaks to cause problems. But this is not related to your actual concerns.

jojo06 wrote:

The main issue and my goal is: Install a legit/clean/proper hyprland... But sway is installed and its packages.

seth linked you to the proper wiki page for hyprland. Follow that.

There is no need to remove sway to use hyprland. You can have multiple compositors installed with no issue.

jojo06 wrote:

PS: Sadly yes, its not my main language yet.

Then please accept my apology if I have been rude about you not making sense. Communicating in a second language is difficult. Pronouns in particular are confusing in your translated posts.

"I don't understand it" (what is "it") -> "I don't understand how to configure hyprland"
"How do I solve this" (what is "this") -> "How do I solve the xprop error"

Last edited by Trilby (2024-01-11 23:27:03)

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