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#1 2024-01-20 11:14:22

PeerK
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Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

Hi all,

for a some months my firefox instances crash, when I update my computers (pacman -Syyu, laptop & pc).

I wonder, if this is normal for arch/firefox or if this might be a problem of my installation - and where to start to look for the reason.

% inxi -SI
System:
Host: hog4 Kernel: 6.7.0-arch3-1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: KDE Plasma
v: 5.27.10 Distro: Arch Linux
Info:
Processes: 401 Uptime: 1d 17h 24m Memory: total: 16 GiB note: est.
available: 14.97 GiB used: 9.97 GiB (66.6%) Shell: Zsh inxi: 3.3.31

Any idea anyone?
Thanks & kind regards,

Peer

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#2 2024-01-20 13:59:29

Lone_Wolf
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

pacman -Syyu

Don't use double y by default, it is only needed in very special cases.

I wonder, if this is normal for arch/firefox or if this might be a problem of my installation

The second one .

Are you running pacman -Syu while firefox is active ?

Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2024-01-20 13:59:53)


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#3 2024-01-20 15:03:33

seth
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

More of https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p2126702 ?
Do you have a backtrace for FF?

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#4 2024-01-22 20:50:01

Bevan
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

It's been the same for me since a couple of months. It seems to be triggered by one of the libalpm hooks. It could be 30-update-mime-database.hook but I'm not sure. I was never able to reproduce the crash manually running this or other hooks.

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#5 2024-01-22 21:04:34

seth
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

Did you see the link and attempt to

sudo touch /etc/systemd/do-not-udevadm-trigger-on-update

?

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#6 2024-01-22 21:30:19

Bevan
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

seth wrote:

Did you see the link and attempt to

sudo touch /etc/systemd/do-not-udevadm-trigger-on-update

?

I cannot reproduce the crash calling `/usr/share/libalpm/scripts/systemd-hook udev-reload` but it's still worth a try. I'll report back but it may take weeks or even months to determine if this fixes the issue or not.

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#7 2024-01-27 11:53:41

PeerK
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

Sorry, was out of business for some days ..

Lone_Wolf wrote:
pacman -Syyu

Don't use double y by default, it is only needed in very special cases.

Usually I used it for command-recall: "ctrl-r" yy

I am going to change it now, thank you for the hint!

Lone_Wolf wrote:

I wonder, if this is normal for arch/firefox or if this might be a problem of my installation

The second one .

Are you running pacman -Syu while firefox is active ?

Yes: In the past, I have not observed an interaction between pacman and other running programs - except pacman ;-)

Kind regards,
Peer

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#8 2024-01-27 12:21:25

PeerK
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

seth wrote:

More of https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p2126702 ?
Do you have a backtrace for FF?

Actually, I don't know, how to generate a backtrace. Do you know a handy How-To for the creation?

Kind regards,
Peer

Last edited by PeerK (2024-01-27 12:25:49)

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#9 2024-01-27 12:23:54

PeerK
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

Bevan wrote:
seth wrote:

Did you see the link and attempt to

sudo touch /etc/systemd/do-not-udevadm-trigger-on-update

?

I cannot reproduce the crash calling `/usr/share/libalpm/scripts/systemd-hook udev-reload` but it's still worth a try. I'll report back but it may take weeks or even months to determine if this fixes the issue or not.

Same here:

sudo /usr/share/libalpm/scripts/systemd-hook udev-reload

does not crash FF.

Kind regards,
Peer

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#10 2024-01-27 15:14:08

seth
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Re: Firefox crashes on all pacman updates

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump
You could still just put the file there and see whether FF still crashes on updates - it's a race condition and by nature not guaranteed to be triggered by a synthetic reload.

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