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#1 2024-03-14 07:39:48

Alarming_Thing
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[Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

Using standard procedures  installed arch  (base,  linuux, firmware, base  devell  and a few others ).  No desktop environment.   Kernel version is :  6.7.9-arch1-1.
The system boots correctly, and I can do everything I need to in multi-user target space.
At this  point,  though, none  of virtual  consoles are working. Control + Alt +  F2-F6 do not work.
I did some search, and figured I needed key NAutoVTs set  to 6 (or any number of your choice ) in /etc/systemd/logind.conf  and in /etc/vconsole.conf (as fallback).
I  set those and  restarted several times,but things  don't  work.

This also prevents me from installing any DE as any desktop manager / DE seems  to  need virtual  cconsoles  working.

This is an old  laptop  ( Lenovo R61 ) The VGA compatible controller is GM965/GL960 if that has anyy bearing.

Any help to get vconsole  is appreciated. TIA

Last edited by Alarming_Thing (2024-03-15 09:49:45)

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#2 2024-03-14 09:38:21

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

I needed key NAutoVTs set  to 6 (or any number of your choice )

No, this is the default and the getty's will spawned automatically when you switch there.
What does actually happen and can you change the VT using eg. "sudo chvt 3"?

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#3 2024-03-14 12:47:58

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

Thanks Seth for the reply. I reinstalled minimal arch again, and the problem persists if I am using keyboard, but not when using chvt ( chvt works ). Problem installing a DE is that,  once lightdm fires up, it just hangs, and  there is no way to provide keyboard input.

Just so I have a graphical env, I installed debian 12 on  the next partition  where both ctrl + alt + F2-6  and chvt work. I am unsure as to why the issue manifests only in Arch.

Any ideas?

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#4 2024-03-14 15:24:47

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

once lightdm fires up, it just hangs, and  there is no way to provide keyboard input

For clarification, the keyboard works in console (leaving the VT switches aside) but _entirely_ not in lightdm?
(Or can you there also just not switch the VT or fail to login etc. but typing into the user/password fileds actually works)?

Do you have an external keyboard?
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 9#p2150329

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#5 2024-03-14 21:03:11

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

Let me clarify. Steps outlined below. ( no external keyboard ). I also noticed that there is a problem with  keyboard ( left ctrl + alt doesn't work. I use right keys ).

1. Minimal Arch  install : keyboard switch does not work. Only chvt works.  Machine is in multi user mode  - everything else works as intended.
2. Install xfce / lightdm : Restart,  boot messages appear until  lightdm starts and the  message '[FAIL ] lightdm.service failed' appears. At this point machine hanges. it's  probably tryinng to start xfce, but doesn't go anywhere. Keyboard switch doesn't work. No way to enter chvt. At this point, machine is useless. ( I havn't tried set it back to multi-user target. Should probably try.  )
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3. Install debian 12 with gnome on next partition. In GNOME I can use keyboard to switch other terminals. chvt works too.
4. Set debian to multi-user mode, restart. Keyboard swith works. chvt does too. This configuration mimics arch minimal install.
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5. I use exact same arch iso on another machine, and keyboard switch works just fine there ( both in arch & debian ).

So my suspecion is on the drivers arch uses for this particular machine. For some reason it's not making vconsoles available.

For me this is not a showstopper issue, I am just learning my way towards resolving it. Thanks for your replies.

Last edited by Alarming_Thing (2024-03-14 21:08:35)

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#6 2024-03-14 22:13:34

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

It would probably good to test the behavior of an external keyboard, if you have one.
Otherwise see the linked thread and try the "pnpacpi=off" parameter, though I don't even think that's it (the keyboard would not work at all)

Does your keyboard have dual-use F-keys (toggled w/ then Fn key)?
Maybe it's just the Fn-lock?

I also don't think the lightdm situation is related to this.
A journal of suh boot might shed more light onto that problem.

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#7 2024-03-15 09:48:58

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Re: [Solved] Virtual Console (tty 1-6 ) unavailable

Thanks Seth. It didn't occur to me to try an external keyboard first, before posting on the forum.
With external keyboard, everythng works as intended, and the fault is with keyboard's left ctrl button. I am sorry I wasted your and everyone else's time.
_/\_

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