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#1 2007-02-07 11:15:33

Master One
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Epiphany Front Size?

On my fresh Gnome installation, I thought I give Epiphany a try, but when I opened it the first time, and it loaded the google page, I was already disappointed because of its fronts handling.

I have installed the following fonts:

ttf-bitstream-vera
ttf-dejavu
ttf-ms-fonts
terminus-font

The default font settings in Epiphany are:

Variable: Sans 10
Fixed: monospace 10
Minimal size: 7

I changed that to DejaVu Sans and DejaVu Sans Mono, but nothing changed. The problem is the font size being too small, which especially is visible on the google page. With the mentioned front settings the Arch page and these forums are shown just fine, so it is not a general problem.

I'd like to know, what other Epiphany users have in Epiphany's font settings, and if there are other ways to improve fonts handling.

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#2 2007-02-07 11:29:30

Crooksey
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

Just raise the minimum level to allot higher, I use 12 or 14, depedning on the monitor size.


Arch Linux since 2006
Python Web Developer + Sys Admin (Gentoo/BSD)

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#3 2007-02-07 11:35:54

Master One
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

Is this really the only possibility? Because just changing the minimum font size also effects webpages (like this forum), which looked just fine before.

If I set the minimum size to 12, everything is much too huge. I'm writing this from my ThinPad with 1600x1200 LCD panel, DPI set to 96.

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#4 2007-02-08 01:59:11

Phrodo_00
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

I use epiphany too and that's a pain in the ass... what I do is to usually browse at 125% zoom, that makes it look pretty much ok

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#5 2007-02-08 10:07:05

JGC
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

ThinPad with 1600x1200 LCD panel, DPI set to 96.

What size is this screen? 1600x1200 is a huge resolution for a laptop, this is a resolution that should fit most 20/21" screens, not a 17" laptop. The reason why fonts are small is because your DPI setting is too low. Though 96dpi is pretty much standard, your screen resolution is more like 120dpi. Measure your screen, do some calculation with pixels that fit on it and set your dpi value to that, I guess your fonts will look quite a bit larger then.

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#6 2007-02-08 10:40:11

Master One
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

It's a ThinkPad T42p with a 15" 1600x1200, and I used the formula from the Xorg7 wiki (Width x 25.4 / DPI and Height x 25.4 / DPI) to get the DisplaySize values for 96dpi.

If I don't set the DisplaySize in the xorg.conf monitor section, it automatically goes to 75x75dpi, which has to be totally wrong.

96dpi generally looks good, and 120dpi makes everything much too large.

Do you have a formula at hand, to calculate the proper dpi for a given screensize & resolution?

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#7 2007-02-08 12:23:59

JGC
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

Just get a ruler and measure your screen, insert that DisplaySize in xorg.conf and it will calculate the exact DPI value you should have, based on the screensize and resolution you specified.

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#8 2007-02-08 16:35:07

Phrodo_00
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

btw, that might not work, as gnome also has its own dpi setting (in the font config, in advanced, in gconf, somewhere in /desktop/.)... however, it could also work for gecko, so... whatever.

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#9 2007-02-08 18:25:40

Master One
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Re: Epiphany Front Size?

Ok, I have set DisplaySize to the actual dimentions of the visible area of the LCD panel, and xorg calculates 133x133dpi now.

Because I just performed another new Arch installation on that machine, I only have the base + xorg atm, so I don't know how this will work out in a DE right now (after playing around with XFCE4.4.0, KDEMOD, KDE & Gnome, I think I will return to XFCE4.4.0, which I will install again shortly). I'll report back later.

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