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[SOLUTION] It was Secure Boot all along.
Hi, long-time Linux user, first-time systemd-boot user here.
I have a ThinkPad X1 Extreme 2nd Gen, installed Arch earlier this month, like it very much and wiped UEFI from BIOS to get rid of that lingering Manjaro entry (I know, I know).
Booted from the ISO image, mounted root, chrooted, mounted /boot, ran `bootctl install`.
I can see the Linux Boot Manager entry in the BIOS’s boot menu, but choosing it makes the screen flick and return to the boot menu.
I can boot Ventoy, use F4 to Search and boot BOOTX64.EFI, that does get me to the systemd-boot’s screen which the default Arch Linux (linux), Arch Linux (linux-lts), etc. entries, and that boots properly.
How can I debug why the Linux Boot Manager UEFI entry does not work, so that I can boot without Ventoy again?
The below is after finding the BOOTX64.EFI via Ventoy; booting ISO and chrooting shows a red dot next to Boot loader sets ESP information.
❯ bootctl
System:
Firmware: UEFI 2.60 (Lenovo 0.4131)
Firmware Arch: x64
Secure Boot: enabled (user)
TPM2 Support: yes
Measured UKI: no
Boot into FW: supported
Current Boot Loader:
Product: systemd-boot 256.7-1-arch
Features: ✓ Boot counting
✓ Menu timeout control
✓ One-shot menu timeout control
✓ Default entry control
✓ One-shot entry control
✓ Support for XBOOTLDR partition
✓ Support for passing random seed to OS
✓ Load drop-in drivers
✓ Support Type #1 sort-key field
✓ Support @saved pseudo-entry
✓ Support Type #1 devicetree field
✓ Enroll SecureBoot keys
✓ Retain SHIM protocols
✓ Menu can be disabled
✓ Boot loader sets ESP information
ESP: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e
File: └─/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
Random Seed:
System Token: set
Exists: yes
Available Boot Loaders on ESP:
ESP: /boot (/dev/disk/by-partuuid/2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e)
File: ├─/EFI/systemd/systemd-bootx64.efi (systemd-boot 256.7-1-arch)
└─/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI (systemd-boot 256.7-1-arch)
Boot Loaders Listed in EFI Variables:
Title: Linux Boot Manager
ID: 0x0000
Status: active, boot-order
Partition: /dev/disk/by-partuuid/2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e
File: └─/EFI/systemd/systemd-bootx64.efi
Boot Loader Entries:
$BOOT: /boot (/dev/disk/by-partuuid/2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e)
token: arch
Default Boot Loader Entry:
type: Boot Loader Specification Type #1 (.conf)
title: Arch Linux (linux)
id: 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
source: /boot//loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
linux: /boot//vmlinuz-linux
initrd: /boot//initramfs-linux.img
options: root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
❯ bootctl list
type: Boot Loader Specification Type #1 (.conf)
title: Arch Linux (linux) (default)
id: 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
source: /boot//loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
linux: /boot//vmlinuz-linux
initrd: /boot//initramfs-linux.img
options: root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
type: Boot Loader Specification Type #1 (.conf)
title: Arch Linux (linux-lts) (selected)
id: 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts.conf
source: /boot//loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts.conf
linux: /boot//vmlinuz-linux-lts
initrd: /boot//initramfs-linux-lts.img
options: root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
type: Boot Loader Specification Type #1 (.conf)
title: Arch Linux (linux-lts-fallback)
id: 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts-fallback.conf
source: /boot//loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts-fallback.conf
linux: /boot//vmlinuz-linux-lts
initrd: /boot//initramfs-linux-lts-fallback.img
options: root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
type: Boot Loader Specification Type #1 (.conf)
title: Arch Linux (linux-fallback)
id: 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-fallback.conf
source: /boot//loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-fallback.conf
linux: /boot//vmlinuz-linux
initrd: /boot//initramfs-linux-fallback.img
options: root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
type: Automatic
title: Reboot Into Firmware Interface
id: auto-reboot-to-firmware-setup
source: /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/LoaderEntries-4a67b082-0a4c-41cf-b6c7-440b29bb8c4f
❯ lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda 8:0 1 28.9G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 1 28.8G 0 part /run/media/chastell/Ventoy
└─sda2 8:2 1 32M 0 part
zram0 253:0 0 4G 0 disk [SWAP]
nvme0n1 259:0 0 1.8T 0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1 0 1G 0 part /boot
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2 0 50G 0 part /
└─nvme0n1p3 259:3 0 1.8T 0 part
└─ainstnvme0n1p3 254:0 0 1.8T 0 crypt /home
❯ sudo fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1
Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1.82 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
Disk model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 857EA8B3-A478-4E70-BA2E-61FC63E04B23
Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/nvme0n1p1 2048 2099199 2097152 1G EFI System
/dev/nvme0n1p2 2099200 106956799 104857600 50G Linux root (x86-64)
/dev/nvme0n1p3 106956800 3907027119 3800070320 1.8T Linux filesystem
❯ blkid
/dev/nvme0n1p3: UUID="c6fec2e4-0ba9-4906-a14e-1c3e62ef41ef" TYPE="crypto_LUKS" PARTUUID="b857b6b8-3b03-47bb-9789-a176d1e7c356"
/dev/nvme0n1p1: UUID="3A96-90C4" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTUUID="2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e"
/dev/nvme0n1p2: UUID="3acf9bd0-2270-493d-90cf-5da0a52476b5" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4"
❯ tree /boot
/boot
├── EFI
│ ├── BOOT
│ │ └── BOOTX64.EFI
│ ├── Linux
│ └── systemd
│ └── systemd-bootx64.efi
├── initramfs-linux-fallback.img
├── initramfs-linux.img
├── initramfs-linux-lts-fallback.img
├── initramfs-linux-lts.img
├── intel-ucode.img
├── loader
│ ├── entries
│ │ ├── 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
│ │ ├── 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-fallback.conf
│ │ ├── 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts.conf
│ │ └── 2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts-fallback.conf
│ ├── entries.srel
│ ├── loader.conf
│ └── random-seed
├── vmlinuz-linux
└── vmlinuz-linux-lts
❯ bat --style header /boot/loader/loader.conf /boot/loader/entries/*
File: /boot/loader/loader.conf
timeout 3
#console-mode keep
File: /boot/loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-fallback.conf
# Created by: archinstall
# Created on: 2024-10-19_20-17-23
title Arch Linux (linux-fallback)
linux /vmlinuz-linux
initrd /initramfs-linux-fallback.img
options root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
File: /boot/loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts-fallback.conf
# Created by: archinstall
# Created on: 2024-10-19_20-17-23
title Arch Linux (linux-lts-fallback)
linux /vmlinuz-linux-lts
initrd /initramfs-linux-lts-fallback.img
options root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
File: /boot/loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux-lts.conf
# Created by: archinstall
# Created on: 2024-10-19_20-17-23
title Arch Linux (linux-lts)
linux /vmlinuz-linux-lts
initrd /initramfs-linux-lts.img
options root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
File: /boot/loader/entries/2024-10-19_20-17-23_linux.conf
# Created by: archinstall
# Created on: 2024-10-19_20-17-23
title Arch Linux (linux)
linux /vmlinuz-linux
initrd /initramfs-linux.img
options root=PARTUUID=06b4aad8-39d9-4dca-9673-de7e32d6b4f4 zswap.enabled=0 rw rootfstype=ext4
Last edited by chastell (2024-10-30 08:49:22)
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What I did
wiped UEFI from BIOS to get rid of that lingering Manjaro entry
you did what?
as your boot entry looks good when in doubt remove it and see if the fallback path works (you can use efibootmgr to do this)
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chastell wrote:What I did
wiped UEFI from BIOS to get rid of that lingering Manjaro entry
you did what?
I reset the boot order to default in BIOS, which got rid of the custom UEFI entries (like Manjaro or Linux Boot Manager).
as your boot entry looks good when in doubt remove it and see if the fallback path works (you can use efibootmgr to do this)
Hmmm, I don’t understand, sorry. What would be the fallback path?
When I boot the only things I can try are Linux Boot Manager (which loops back to the menu when chosen) and Ventoy (if I have the USB plugged in, which works and then can find the local efi file and boot).
❯ efibootmgr --unicode
BootCurrent: 001F
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0000,0010,0011,0012,0013,0014,0015,0019,001A,001B,001C,001D,001E,001F,0020,0021,0022,0023,0024
Boot0000* Linux Boot Manager HD(1,GPT,2d96b6dd-eaa8-407c-ae8c-2cb9166c809e,0x800,0x200000)/\EFI\systemd\systemd-bootx64.efi
Boot0010 Setup FvFile(721c8b66-426c-4e86-8e99-3457c46ab0b9)
Boot0011 Boot Menu FvFile(126a762d-5758-4fca-8531-201a7f57f850)
Boot0012 Diagnostic Splash Screen FvFile(a7d8d9a6-6ab0-4aeb-ad9d-163e59a7a380)
Boot0013 Lenovo Diagnostics FvFile(3f7e615b-0d45-4f80-88dc-26b234958560)
Boot0014 Regulatory Information FvFile(478c92a0-2622-42b7-a65d-5894169e4d24)
Boot0015 ThinkShield secure wipe FvFile(3593a0d5-bd52-43a0-808e-cbff5ece2477)
Boot0016 Startup Interrupt Menu FvFile(f46ee6f4-4785-43a3-923d-7f786c3c8479)
Boot0017 Rescue and Recovery FvFile(665d3f60-ad3e-4cad-8e26-db46eee9f1b5)
Boot0018 MEBx Hot Key FvFile(ac6fd56a-3d41-4efd-a1b9-870293811a28)
Boot0019* USB CD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,86701296aa5a7848b66cd49dd3ba6a55)
Boot001A* USB FDD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,6ff015a28830b543a8b8641009461e49)
Boot001B* NVMe0 VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,001c199932d94c4eae9aa0b6e98eb8a400)
Boot001C* NVMe1 VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,001c199932d94c4eae9aa0b6e98eb8a401)
Boot001D* ATA HDD0 VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,91af625956449f41a7b91f4f892ab0f601)
Boot001E* ATA HDD1 VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,91af625956449f41a7b91f4f892ab0f602)
Boot001F* USB HDD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,33e821aaaf33bc4789bd419f88c50803)
Boot0020* PXE BOOT VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,78a84aaf2b2afc4ea79cf5cc8f3d3803)
Boot0021* HTTPS BOOT VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,ad38ccbbf7edf04d959cf42aa74d3650)/Uri()
Boot0022* LENOVO CLOUD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,ad38ccbbf7edf04d959cf42aa74d3650)/Uri(https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/cdeploy/efi/boot.efi)
Boot0023 Other CD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,aea2090adfde214e8b3a5e471856a35406)
Boot0024 Other HDD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,91af625956449f41a7b91f4f892ab0f606)
Boot0025* IDER BOOT CDROM PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x14,0x0)/USB(15,1)
Boot0026* IDER BOOT Floppy PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x14,0x0)/USB(15,0)
Boot0027* ATA HDD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,91af625956449f41a7b91f4f892ab0f6)
Boot0028* ATAPI CD VenMsg(bc7838d2-0f82-4d60-8316-c068ee79d25b,aea2090adfde214e8b3a5e471856a354)
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the fallback path is <ESP>/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI - just as on the ventoy thumbdrive
we had a recent thread where a acer laptop had some issue with systemd-boot - which OP was able to solve by deleting its boot entry
efibootmgr -b 0 -B
to clear systemd-boot - then the bios should pick up the fallback at EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI and boot anyway
what sounds off is that even you can diretly select the boot entry it kicks you back to uefi - which hints to some error of systemd-boot - could be the copy in fallback could have the same issue
I don't know which bootloader ventoy uses - but it's likely grub - so you could try if you can boot your system using grub instead of systemd-boot
the problem here seems a bad implementation of the uefi - likely designed and tested with windows only - and it just breaks because of the systemd-boot entry
btw - do you have secure boot disabled? how about CSM?
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even you can diretly select the boot entry it kicks you back to uefi - which hints to some error of systemd-boot - could be the copy in fallback could have the same issue
Yup, they were identical files.
I don't know which bootloader ventoy uses - but it's likely grub - so you could try if you can boot your system using grub instead of systemd-boot
Too ambitious to go back to GRUB, I’m even sticking with Wayland for the time being.
btw - do you have secure boot disabled?
Oh. My. God. I swear I had it disabled, but apparently I reset all of BIOS to the defaults, not just UEFI.
Apologies for wasting your time but extremely grateful for pointing me to the solution!
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hm, strange - this somewhat confirms my idea that the uefi was tested with windows only - as usually when the verification fails there should be a message instead of just kicking you back
but on the other side: it's common for secureboot get re-enabled when bios defaults get loaded
anyway - glad to hear you were able to fix it
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I'm from a country where thunderstorms / lightning / power fluctuations are common. In one such occurrence, my UEFI settings got reset to defaults, including secure boot, so it may not be due to something you explicitly did. Heck, even my router was reset.
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