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#1 2024-11-26 18:17:07

ludvick
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pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

I have just installed arch, using archinstall v3.0.1.

During setting up installation parameters, I chose "No audio server". Unfortunately, when chrooted to new-installed system, I noticed serie of packages of pipewire installed.
Similar behaviour was in archinstall 3.0.0, but not in archinstall v2.8.6.

Could anyone have a look, please.

Last edited by ludvick (2024-11-26 18:18:13)

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#2 2024-11-28 07:01:24

ape_din
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Re: pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

I have noticed the same. Someone on reddit wrote that it could be due to pipewire needed by xdg-desktop-portal and thats why its installed even though you choose no audio server. But yes it would be nice if they fix this!

Last edited by ape_din (2024-11-28 09:09:38)

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#3 2024-11-28 10:49:11

Lone_Wolf
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Re: pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

Moving to Arch Linux Guided Installer board.


Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.

clean chroot building not flexible enough ?
Try clean chroot manager by graysky

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#4 2024-11-28 14:41:23

V1del
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Re: pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

pipewire was originally not intended for audio at all, but for video/screen sharing over a secure protocol to be able to provide this on wayland. As such it is basically a base requirement for anything that uses wayland and wants to provide screensharing (and by extension more and more for webrowsers and the like in order to provide screen sharing).

If you don't get the audio parts of pipewire that are in pipewire-audio I don't particularly see this as a mistake., and it's very possible it was a hard dep of something else.

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#5 2024-11-28 14:58:35

ape_din
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Re: pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

Firstly as the original post says, this was not an issue on a pre 3.0 version of archinstall and secondly i dont use wayland. I install arch with xfce so again pipewire should not be installed if i select no install.

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#6 2024-11-28 15:07:43

V1del
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Re: pipewire installed when no audio server chosen in archinstall

If you believe this to be an error that is not simply happenstance due to dependencies, then do a bug report on the github: https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/issues -- or hope that thorxed received a mail about this and will reply here.

But as mentioned... many things will require pipewire for the screen sharing components, even if you installed xfce, as soon as you also include firefox or chromium or so, you'll minimally pull in libpipewire. FWIW what output do you get from doing a

pactree -r pipewire #From pacman-contrib

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