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Filip Manchester

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[SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

So after I installed gwe to slightly overclock my GPU I was given a error that I was missing Nvidia drivers, so I litterly just went onto the package page in this website and installed "nvidia" I'm pretty sure I uninstalled "nvidia-dkms" or something similar because it was conflicting. Now my question is can I boot arch through integrated graphics or something similar? I do get the grub menu when booting and it lets me boot with some sort of fallback but it had no effect.

GPU: RTX 4060ti 565 drivers
Cpu: Ryzen 5 7600x

If I haven't given enough Information please tell me, untill I get this solved I'll have to use windows 11 on my second ssd ?.

Last edited by Filip Manchester (Today 09:15:01)

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

This is why you don't use Arch as your first linux distro.

Anyways can you please post your output of

 pacman -Qn | grep nvidia 

and

 pacman -Qm 

cryptearth

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

This is why you don't use Arch as your first linux distro.

or why you don't use nvid for linux at all ~scnr
point is this isn't an Arch problem but nvid and user error

@OP
unless you know what you do I recommend against overclocking

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Okay let me give some more information, I can't run commands. All I have access to is the grub boot menu. And arch isn't my first dystro. I'm just not that experienced when in comes to Nvidia cards. I've used intel UHD graphics for like 70% of my life. I did manage to get into the boot configuration file in grub and I can edit it. Is there a command which I can slip in there to temporarily use the Radeon integrated graphics so I can fix it? (I have some sort of Mesa installed)

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

If you can get past Grub, you should be able to access the console using another TTY instead of the default.

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Currently I am attempting the approach of remove GPU and force integrated GPU. For now it's going well.

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Update: physically forcing integrated graphics failed. Time for grub shenanigans.

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Why post in a forum asking for help if you're just going to ignore what people are asking and just do your own thing? Look at post #2

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Sorry I REALLY need to get this back up and running. I have a lot of important files on it and I'm basically just stressing out. As I mentioned I cannot access Getty nor any console other that grub. The only things I can do is use grub and change startup command lines.

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

So what happens if you select a boot option from GRUB. what is the exact behavior. If you can see GRUB you should be able to see an option to boot, if you can boot into it you should be able to access TTY.

What is the behavior you are seeing

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Alright so I turn on my PC (as per usual) and the grub menu pulls up. I just leave it autoselect "arch Linux" and normally it just boots up but now after it shows "booting initial ramdisk" there's only a black screen and no response from anything. Right now I have opened the set parameters for arch, there's some arch like commands here and the first one is "load_video". Is that related or am I just procrastinating?

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

alright you're going to have to chroot into the system using a live usb medium and fix your issue that way. I would suggest posting the outputs of the command from post #2 once you are chrooted in.

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Alright so I guess I'll prep a arch install USB and start my prayers.

cryptearth

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

if you can access grub hit E and try to append
nomodeset
to the kernel line - then F10 to boot
this should give you an output

overall to me it sounds like you somehow messed up the nvidia driver by blindly installing nvidia and removing nvidia-dkms without the required changes to the initramfs - hence it may still contain references to nvidia-dkms and fails
the nomodeset kernel option temporarily reverts the boot to plain old vesa mode which should grant access to at least a TTY - maybe try in combination with specifying multi-user.target instead of graphical.target to prevent your DE from auto starting

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

I remember being able to run vesa mode no problem but with some key features missing. Also where in the boot parameters do I put nomodeset?

Last edited by Filip Manchester (Yesterday 15:26:03)

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Sorry I REALLY need to get this back up and running. I have a lot of important files on it and I'm basically just stressing out.

I'm pretty sure your files are safe, so don't panic.  You should always be able to get back into your system with a chroot ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot ).  As long as you can boot your installation media, this is always an option to get to your files.

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Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Okay how do I add "nomodeset" to the parameters? It keeps saying that it failed to read the command.

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Sorry I REALLY need to get this back up and running. I have a lot of important files on it and I'm basically just stressing out.

I'm pretty sure your files are safe, so don't panic.  You should always be able to get back into your system with a chroot ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot ).  As long as you can boot your installation media, this is always an option to get to your files.

Oh, in that case I could just ditch the os and reinstall it but it's more interesting to save it. As I said above, how do I input options in boot parameters of grub? (Haven't messed with grub till now)

mackin_cheese

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB

cryptearth

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

And arch isn't my first dystro. [...] I did manage to get into the boot configuration file in grub and I can edit it. Is there a command which I can slip in there to temporarily use the Radeon integrated graphics so I can fix it?

yes - NOMODESET

Sorry I REALLY need to get this back up and running. I have a lot of important files on it and I'm basically just stressing out.

if your work is really that important:
- don't use arch
- don't tinker with a working system just because you want something todo you obviously should not (overclocking your gpu)
- please avoid urging others to fix YOUR user errors - this is a forum from users for users - we all spent our free time here without getting anything in return - if your job depends on it you already did three things wrong on your end you're now asking us to fix - the world doesn't work this way!

I remember being able to run vesa mode no problem but with some key features missing. Also where in the boot parameters do I put nomodeset?

Okay how do I add "nomodeset" to the parameters? It keeps saying that it failed to read the command.

are you sure this isn't your first time running a linux distro? what did you not understand from my very basic instructions? do I have my cat to draw you a picture?

> grub screen - line "Arch linux" highlighted as auto-selected as default entry
NOW HIT E for EDIT

your screen should turn into something like this:

        savedefault
        load_video
        set gfxpayload=keep
        insmod gzio
        insmod part_gpt
        insmod ext2
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c
        echo    'Linux linux wird geladen …'
        linux   /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c rw  
        echo    'Initiale Ramdisk wird geladen …'
        initrd  /boot/amd-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-linux.img

use the curosr keys on your keyboard to navigate to the kernel command line - that's the one starting with linux and append
nomodeset 3
so it looks like this:

linux   /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c rw nomodeset 3

now press F10 to boot that modified command

if you are unable to comprehend and follow these most basic troubleshooting steps - please just stop using linux alltogether and stick to windows as your work seems too urgent for you to tinker with your system you obviously fail to understand
btw - why you even had nvidia-dkms installed in the first place? the nvidia package is kept in sync with the kernel - dkms is only needed if you run a non standard kernel - for which you don't get support here anyway - so your initial post "I [blindly] replaced nvidia-dkms with nvidia [because some tool I don't have experience with required so]" already hints that your system was in a state you didn'T fully comprehended

oh, btw - this cost me around 10min of work to write thtat down - by 12€/hour that's 2€ for this help - how about payment if your work is so urgent you can'T live the 10 SECONDS required to fix that without urging others to fix YOUR errors?

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

Sorry but English isn't my first language and I sometimes mix up words and write sentiences which don't make much sense. Please forgive me for acting like an useless pig and not understanding instructions that appear simple and straight forward to you. I would genuinely give you the 2 buckaroos but I can't.

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

And arch isn't my first dystro. [...] I did manage to get into the boot configuration file in grub and I can edit it. Is there a command which I can slip in there to temporarily use the Radeon integrated graphics so I can fix it?

yes - NOMODESET

Sorry I REALLY need to get this back up and running. I have a lot of important files on it and I'm basically just stressing out.

if your work is really that important:
- don't use arch
- don't tinker with a working system just because you want something todo you obviously should not (overclocking your gpu)
- please avoid urging others to fix YOUR user errors - this is a forum from users for users - we all spent our free time here without getting anything in return - if your job depends on it you already did three things wrong on your end you're now asking us to fix - the world doesn't work this way!

I remember being able to run vesa mode no problem but with some key features missing. Also where in the boot parameters do I put nomodeset?

Okay how do I add "nomodeset" to the parameters? It keeps saying that it failed to read the command.

are you sure this isn't your first time running a linux distro? what did you not understand from my very basic instructions? do I have my cat to draw you a picture?

> grub screen - line "Arch linux" highlighted as auto-selected as default entry
NOW HIT E for EDIT

your screen should turn into something like this:

        savedefault
        load_video
        set gfxpayload=keep
        insmod gzio
        insmod part_gpt
        insmod ext2
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c
        echo    'Linux linux wird geladen …'
        linux   /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c rw  
        echo    'Initiale Ramdisk wird geladen …'
        initrd  /boot/amd-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-linux.img

use the curosr keys on your keyboard to navigate to the kernel command line - that's the one starting with linux and append
nomodeset 3
so it looks like this:

linux   /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=15c36a64-f11c-4f7e-aa6a-3018475d6f6c rw nomodeset 3

now press F10 to boot that modified command

if you are unable to comprehend and follow these most basic troubleshooting steps - please just stop using linux alltogether and stick to windows as your work seems too urgent for you to tinker with your system you obviously fail to understand
btw - why you even had nvidia-dkms installed in the first place? the nvidia package is kept in sync with the kernel - dkms is only needed if you run a non standard kernel - for which you don't get support here anyway - so your initial post "I [blindly] replaced nvidia-dkms with nvidia [because some tool I don't have experience with required so]" already hints that your system was in a state you didn'T fully comprehended

oh, btw - this cost me around 10min of work to write thtat down - by 12€/hour that's 2€ for this help - how about payment if your work is so urgent you can'T live the 10 SECONDS required to fix that without urging others to fix YOUR errors?

Okay I already knew everything above but what the hell do you mean by "append"??? English isn't my first language and I would appreciate if you gave me a reference on how it applies here in computer science.

Edit: figured it out and works like a charm, I am terribly sorry for wasting your time. Hopefully I can make it up to you in the future when I become more qualified.

Last edited by Filip Manchester (Yesterday 18:35:11)

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

This is why you don't use Arch as your first linux distro.

Anyways can you please post your output of

 pacman -Qn | grep nvidia 

and

 pacman -Qm 

Alright I got the output. Here it is:

nvidia 565.77-3
Nvidia-utils 565.77-3
opencl-nvidia 565.77-3

Edit: it also won't let me update:

error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
: :  installing llvm-libs (19.1.6-3) breaks dependency 'llvm-libs=18.1.8' required by mesa-git

Last edited by Filip Manchester (Yesterday 18:43:45)

Scimmia

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

And why are you using mesa-git?

Filip Manchester

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Re: [SOLVED] Absolutely no display from arch

And why are you using mesa-git?

I'm not really sure, I'm pretty sure it got installed with cinnamon. I'll probably remove it.