Are me graphic card compatible with the AMDGPU drivers (opensource)

gato_7908 · 2025-04-06 15:00:06

lspci -k -d ::03xx
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8610G]
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 216c
Kernel driver in use: radeon
Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu
01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile]
DeviceName: SUN (6660)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 216c
Kernel driver in use: radeon
Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu

Edit:
lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Complex [1022:1410]
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8610G] [1002:990f]
00:01.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity HDMI Audio Controller [1002:9902]
00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port [1022:1412]
00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port [1022:1414]
00:05.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port [1022:1415]
00:10.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB XHCI Controller [1022:7814] (rev 09)
00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7804]
00:12.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller [1022:7807] (rev 11)
00:12.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller [1022:7808] (rev 11)
00:13.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller [1022:7807] (rev 11)
00:13.2 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller [1022:7808] (rev 11)
00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller [1022:780b] (rev 16)
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller [1022:780d] (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge [1022:780e] (rev 11)
00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH PCI Bridge [1022:780f] (rev 40)
00:15.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Hudson PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) [1022:43a0]
00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 0 [1022:1400]
00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 1 [1022:1401]
00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 2 [1022:1402]
00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 3 [1022:1403]
00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 4 [1022:1404]
00:18.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 5 [1022:1405]
01:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] [1002:6660]
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]
02:00.1 Bluetooth [0d11]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth [1814:3298]
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 07)
05:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:5229] (rev 01)

Last edited by gato_7908 (2025-04-06 20:40:27)

cryptearth · 2025-04-06 17:43:56

according to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon the hd8610g is a nothern island architecture - so: nope
amdgpu requires at least southern island

mpan · 2025-04-06 18:49:12

We need at least GCN instruction set.
Go to Wikipedia article on Radeon HD 8000 series
Find 8610. The architecture is TeraScale 3.
Go to Wikipedia article summarizing ATI/AMD GPUs
TeraScale 3 is before GCN 1st gen.
Therefore: unfortunately no

Last edited by mpan (2025-04-06 18:51:43)

mackin_cheese · 2025-04-06 19:39:16

Please do research first next time. It shouldn't have taken a user to do your research for you.

seth · 2025-04-06 20:15:15

AMD should also not force anybody to learn geography: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#d … etingnames
Nor should

lspci confusingly wrote:

Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu

It should simply not require an atlas, several webpages and four brains to figure such things out.
Unfortunately we don't live in a Shouldland

The "Sun XT" on 01:00.0 is a GCN 1.0 "Southern Island" (without having the name of a southern island, because that would be to fucking easy, would it?)
=> There's a decent chance that it runs on the amdgpu module (hence the indication in lspci)

The "Richmond" HD 8610G however is (as pointed out by cryptearth, mpan and the amd decoder ring on the x.org wiki that should™ not have to exist) a pre-GCN NorthernIsland (and apparently belongs to Aruba…)
Not sure whether the label is falsely resolved or the product ID is falsely aliased in amdgpu.

@gato_7908, please post the output of "lspci -nn", also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem
What's the cause of your inquiry?

cryptearth · 2025-04-06 20:29:47

seth wrote:

The "Sun XT" on 01:00.0 is a GCN 1.0 "Southern Island" (without having the name of a southern island, because that would be to fucking easy, would it?)
=> There's a decent chance that it runs on the amdgpu module (hence the indication in lspci)

well - got me on this one - my bad - I just failed to noticed there's a 2nd gpu - I mis-read it as the usual hdmi-audio sub-device ...

seth · 2025-04-06 20:37:15

seth wrote:

It should simply not require an atlas, several webpages and four brains to figure such things out.

mpan · 2025-04-06 22:05:42

mackin_cheese wrote:

Please do research first next time. It shouldn't have taken a user to do your research for you.

The topic may be very confusing and unclear, in particular to somebody not well versed in GPU parlance.

Vendors use marketing terms instead of proper chip names, obscurity is commonplace, FOSS community uses identifiers relating to hardware not officially exposed anywhere else, codenames add to confusion, model numbers not necessarily match exactly the architecture between tiers, at least three separate numbering schemes are used, and 8000 comes before 7000. Without any prior knowledge, one doesn’t have the right mental map to quickly find their position in what a module supports and what it does not.

This isn’t a typical LMGTFU situation. So no need to be harsh; showing how to find that kind of information is this case more useful, isn’t it?

Last edited by mpan (2025-04-06 22:06:45)

cryptearth · 2025-04-07 06:39:01

@mpan
although I agree with you about "help op to help themself" and have my opinion about mackin_cheese and also have to somewhat agree with them:
from the little the OP provided it seems to be anold HP Pavilion laptop - and in order for us to help op to learn how to figure out such information a valid question is: "what is that device? please provide its model number" and a good advice "use this model number and use it with search terms like 'linux amdgpu'"
tldr: OP has an old laptop - if I would have to guess limely from around the win7 era - and to answer the question: it's unlikely that the partial amdgpu for such old gpus would work well
in fact I see a potential issue here when enabling the pre-gcn support for amdgpu it would also try to load for the igpu which likely will fail rendering the system in a state without output

seth · 2025-04-07 07:00:41

The age of the laptop (iff such) doesn't matter as much as the chip support, radeon got kinda stepchilded and GCN chips often work better w/ amdgpu.
The OP might also struggle w/ "me" English (or is just from Ireland - "me lucky charms!!" )

@gato_7908
The VID matches the listed device, but it's not aliased in the amdgpu module of the 6.13.8 kernel.
=> What kernel are you booting?

To address the situation and cryptearth concerns about the Richmond chip accidentally being picked up when enabling si_support: what does the hadrware layout look like?
Can you disable the Richmond chip and run the system on the SunXT one?
Can you attach a monitor to the SunXT one?
Why do you seek to use amdgpu itfp?

In case you're not form ireland: https://deepl.com might help you out.

Lastly, editing the kernel commandline at the bootloader and adding "amdgpu.si_support=1 radeon.si_support=0" *there* will be safe in the sense that even if the output fails, a simple reboot will clear the stage.

Please do not aswer this by editign your first post to maintain the structure of the conversation (and get us a notification) and please use [code][/code] tags for outputs like lspci.

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