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#1 2007-03-15 19:12:42

karmapolice
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Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I was wondering why Beryl is in extra but Compiz isn't?

I previously used Beryl in my Ubuntu days but with each release it is getting more resource hungry, slower and with more bugs (at least for me) and that's why I stopped using it. Emerald theme manager was really buggy and all I got when I asked for support at thei forums was reinstall beryl or report the bug but the bug was never fixed eventhough it was already reported and even closed. BTW 0.2 final still has the same bug.

Now I use compiz and is faster and less resource hungry. I know it doesn't have every plugin beryl has but I don't care because I don't even use them tongue .

I know we have compiz in AUR and I build it often but it would be nice to have in an official repository. It will be Ubuntu feisty by default, it also comes with SUSE and Fedora.

THX

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#2 2007-03-15 20:38:21

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

If what you say is true, I would also prefer Compiz over beryl.

Beryl seems just way too amateurish, but guess its getting better also.

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#3 2007-03-15 20:59:41

DaNiMoTh
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I'm very happy if TUs or devs will put Compiz in official repo...

And I think that XGL is ready too for official repo.

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#4 2007-03-15 21:33:24

hacosta
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

agreed. i even asked this on irc once.

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#5 2007-03-15 23:26:15

Purch
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I use beryl atm and it does its job nicely. On the other hand, it would be nice to have another to choose from. So, I second the compiz.
Actually, beryl is maybe too candy ...

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#6 2007-03-16 00:27:47

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

is there a working PKGBUILD on the AUR?  If not, please put one there - then we can work on getting it into official repos.  A simple request generally isn't enough to get a new package into any of the repos.  It's all dependent on time and whether or not someone actually uses it.

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#7 2007-03-16 04:22:41

isez2001
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

There's already an AUR package, and it seems to be up to date.

Was compiz in the repos at one point?  I know I've had it installed before, but I can't remember if I had to build it myself or not.

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#8 2007-03-16 13:58:34

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

Actually compiz and XGL are on my personal ( and unofficial ) repository.

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#9 2007-03-16 16:15:47

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

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#10 2007-03-16 20:44:38

karmapolice
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I didn't know about that ekerazha tongue

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#11 2007-03-29 20:17:38

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I 'd like to have a compiz official package too, since i experienced problems in gconf (keys are properly uninstalled after package removal/upgrade) and gwd isn't working with metacity... (don't know why)


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#12 2007-03-31 18:15:28

DaNiMoTh
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

and... posting your problem and try to fix it? It's really a problem of package?

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#13 2007-04-02 23:18:08

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

DaNiMoTh wrote:

and... posting your problem and try to fix it? It's really a problem of package?

btw if I remove compiz packages then under /opt/gnome/ect/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ all the gconf-tree-XX.xml contains previous entries... don't know why.
I'm using aur packages, the ones that were considered "stable" post below


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#14 2007-04-03 11:47:01

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

I think with the release 0.4 the packages could be made somewhat more modular. Already in git there is an ini plugin that can be used instead of gconf (e.g. with compiz-settings), getting rid of GNOME dependencies for KDE users. I assume that's something people would be interested in.

Glad to see compiz hit official repos! Beryl has been really unusable for me since day 2 (it worked fine immediately after the fork).

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#15 2007-04-03 13:26:03

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

If beryl & compiz re-merge as expected where will this new app go - extra or unstable?

beryl merge with compiz (google)

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#16 2007-04-03 13:40:42

DaNiMoTh
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

Compiz 0.5.0 is now under [community].
Please, check if it works fine.

If you have a problem with package ( and NOT configuration problem ) please tell me.
If compiz 0.5.0 is unstable, we can downgrade ad 0.3.6 ( but for me is working well )

Thank you

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#17 2007-04-03 23:01:00

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

DaNiMoTh wrote:

Compiz 0.5.0 is now under [community].
Please, check if it works fine.

If you have a problem with package ( and NOT configuration problem ) please tell me.
If compiz 0.5.0 is unstable, we can downgrade ad 0.3.6 ( but for me is working well )

Thank you

compiz.install is incorrect... it doesn't install gwd gconf schemas too


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#18 2007-04-04 11:11:09

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

[cimi@aries ~]$ sudo pacman -R compiz
Password:
controllo delle dipendenze in corso... fatto.
(1/1) rimozione in corso di compiz                  [#####################] 100%
[cimi@aries ~]$ cat /opt/gnome/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/* | grep compiz | wc -l
1593

wow, 1593 lines of gconf schemas not removed... neutral when someone will fix this bug?

Last edited by Cimi (2007-04-04 11:11:28)


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#19 2007-04-04 12:24:26

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

Are gconf schemas for compiz being left after uninstall really so urgent to fix? They won't destroy your system.
The fact DaNiMoTh has *kindly* decided to maintain Compiz in the community repository should be more than enough incentive for you to stop being a complete douchebag. Maybe you should give it more than 12 hours to be fixed, you're not exactly paying him. =/

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#20 2007-04-04 13:56:44

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

1593 lines! This almost 2000 lines!

What is  bloat doing in my computers! I clarifications and fixes now.
Apology must be made! I await!

I've great knowledge of all the system, from administration to desktop modding.
I not work good in condition right now. Unacceptable I must say!

Last edited by klapmuetz (2007-04-04 14:10:47)


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#21 2007-04-04 14:41:32

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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

Cimi: It is a pacman problem, not package problem. Pacman 3.0.0 and 3.0.1 seems to ignore pre_remove and post_remove instructions on *.install files.

I see that you're italian ( Only italian posts messages localizied it_IT in eng forums ). I'll be happy if you, wheater you want, can talk about this problem ( and your conception of how a TU does work ) on IRC archlinux italian channel ( I don't like flames on forum ).

klapmuetz: My apologies to your hard-disk.. I know that 2000 useless lines stored take ~ 10 Kb.. and for modern computers are so much big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile big_smile

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#22 2007-04-04 16:19:11

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

wizzomafizzo wrote:

Are gconf schemas for compiz being left after uninstall really so urgent to fix? They won't destroy your system.
The fact DaNiMoTh has *kindly* decided to maintain Compiz in the community repository should be more than enough incentive for you to stop being a complete douchebag. Maybe you should give it more than 12 hours to be fixed, you're not exactly paying him. =/

there were a misunderstanding... i NEVER wanted to criticize danimoth work or every TU.
I've just posted 2 bugs to help him improving that package... in a fun way.

I'm sorry if you thought I was nervous about this or if i was criticizing someone.
I've thought that syaing "oh 1593 lines big_smile" was not offensive and friendly

Cheers


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#23 2007-04-04 16:22:15

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

DaNiMoTh wrote:

I see that you're italian ( Only italian posts messages localizied it_IT in eng forums ). I'll be happy if you, wheater you want, can talk about this problem ( and your conception of how a TU does work ) on IRC archlinux italian channel ( I don't like flames on forum ).

? haven't understood... are you feel irritated by my last bugreport? the main intention was not to criticize you but to expose the problem in a friendly way.
I'm sorry if that was not gathered


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#24 2007-04-04 16:26:55

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

DaNiMoTh wrote:

Compiz 0.5.0 is now under [community].
Please, check if it works fine.

If you have a problem with package ( and NOT configuration problem ) please tell me.
If compiz 0.5.0 is unstable, we can downgrade ad 0.3.6 ( but for me is working well )

Thank you

I've just followed that post.. so I complete DISLIKE your ironic answers.

I've thought to help him not to be teased by you


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#25 2007-04-04 16:29:19

Cimi
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Re: Why Compiz is not in any repository?

  install -D -m644 $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver/plugins/compiz.schemas \
                   $startdir/pkg/opt/gnome/share/gconf/schemas/compiz.schemas

Probably we have to add lines for gwd schemas

Last edited by Cimi (2007-04-04 16:29:42)


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