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getty

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Registered: 2025-10-25

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Random system freeze

Kernel: LTS-(6.12.53-1), X11, xfce
GPU: amd 7800xt
CPU: ryzen 7 7700x
RAM: 32gb ddr5

When my system freezes, I can only move my mouse, after a 1minute or so, the system goes to a black screen and a blinking dash, I cannot enter tty.

Tried to alt+sysreq+U and alt+sysreq+S and hard reboot, when I check the logs the info isn't very useful and the time of logs doesn't match the time of the system freeze,

This happens very randomly, but I did notice it happens mostly when I watch youtube videos or when I'm playing games, overall temperatures are fine, 34c overall temp and 45c for CPU.

I've discussed with a friend of mine that have a system similar to mine and running ArchLinux, he suggested to change to normal kernel 6.17.4-arch2-1 and see if the freeze persists, since his system is fine, I'll update this thread if this solves my issue.

I would appreciate if someone could point me to the right direction, this been happening since LTS-(6.12.47-1).

seth

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Registered: 2012-09-03

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Re: Random system freeze

when I check the logs the info isn't very useful and the time of logs doesn't match the time of the system freeze,

Can you sysrq+REISUB? (And did you enable sysrq itfp?)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ryzen#Troubleshooting - adjust the PBO curve optimizer and/or limit the c-states (aggressively to 1) - does it still happen?

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getty

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Registered: 2025-10-25

Posts: 4

Re: Random system freeze

when I check the logs the info isn't very useful and the time of logs doesn't match the time of the system freeze,

Can you sysrq+REISUB? (And did you enable sysrq itfp?)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ryzen#Troubleshooting - adjust the PBO curve optimizer and/or limit the c-states (aggressively to 1) - does it still happen?

It was enabled but not for everything, it was 16 instead of 1, I enabled it right now, since the freeze is quite random, I'm going to wait to see if it happens with my current kernel 6.17.4-arch2-1 and if it does, I'll Alt + SysRq + R E I S U B like you suggested, to at least try to pinpoint the issue and go from there, I'll keep this thread updated, thanks for the suggestions.

getty

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Registered: 2025-10-25

Posts: 4

Re: Random system freeze

when I check the logs the info isn't very useful and the time of logs doesn't match the time of the system freeze,

Can you sysrq+REISUB? (And did you enable sysrq itfp?)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Ryzen#Troubleshooting - adjust the PBO curve optimizer and/or limit the c-states (aggressively to 1) - does it still happen?

I had more time today to sniff around the logs, here's what I found:

kernel: amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: DF poison setting is inconsistent(1:0:0:0)!
kernel: amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: Poison setting is inconsistent in DF/UMC(0:1)!

(WW) AMDGPU(0): flip queue failed: Invalid argument
(WW) AMDGPU(0): Page flip failed: Invalid argument

Since switching from LTS-6.12.53-1 to 6.17.4-arch2-1 until now I have experienced no freezes (but too soon to tell), just wanted to update the thread with logs which may be important (or not, I'm not experienced enough to tell) with what I'm experiencing.

Last edited by getty (2025-10-25 20:45:45)

NuSkool

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Registered: 2015-03-23

Posts: 281

Re: Random system freeze

Quote source: Google,  "DF poison setting is inconsistent",  AI Overview
Cannot confirm any of this...

The DF reference is to the Data Fabric interconnect within the AMD GPU and CPU architecture.
This error has been noted in the kernel message log (dmesg) on systems with AMD CPUs and integrated graphics,
particularly when using specific versions of the Linux kernel or the amdgpu driver.

Potential causes:

The error is most frequently reported after a kernel or mesa driver update on Linux.
Kernel mismatch: A newer kernel version may not correctly interpret or handle the error-reporting capabilities of an older AMD processor or chipset.
Driver conflict: An updated amdgpu driver may conflict with the firmware or a specific motherboard configuration.

I'm on an AMD 7 8745HS,  Radeon 780M Graphics w/o issues. Curious about the cause of your issue.

sudo dmesg | grep ' DF'

grep -E 'Poision|flip ' ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[    20.743] (WW) AMDGPU(0): flip queue failed: Invalid argument
[    20.743] (WW) AMDGPU(0): Page flip failed: Invalid argument

pacman -Q linux mesa xf86-video-amdgpu
linux 6.17.4.arch2-1
mesa 1:25.2.5-2
xf86-video-amdgpu 25.0.0-1

Last edited by NuSkool (2025-10-25 23:40:26)

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