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#1 2007-03-22 07:21:42

AndyRTR
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gnash moved extra

I've moved Gnash into extra repo. It's the only native flash solution available right now for x86_64. And the only GPL flash player at all.

check http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ - develeopment is processing fast. most banners are working well. mouse events are fully supported. sound *should* work but i never heard anything at all. don't expect youtube playing right now. "swfdec" is known to play that but's unsuable in other ways.

last "stable" alpha release was 0.7.2 - but it's not usable due to tons of memleaks. much has changes since that early developer release. that's why i build the pkg using cvs snapshots. next public release is still far away and planned when major features are working. youtube support is the most important.

everybody interested should give it a try. dependencies may still be not perfect and change quiet often. but it's ready for *basic* daily use and shouldn't crash your Firefox anymore.

sorry to all konqueror users: klash plugin still doesn't compile. i'll have an eye on it - if you find a way to get it built let me know!

AndyRTR

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#2 2007-03-22 10:25:59

test1000
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Re: gnash moved extra

i still don't get why development software is in extra... Or is the rule now "it's stable for me so i put it in extra" golden? The problem with that rule is that as a user I don't know what to expect being in extra anymore suddenly. Why can't you put it in unstable?

anyway.. for all the people building swfdec, you can build it by making a copy of xulrunner-plugin.pc and calling it mozilla-plugin.pc(or possibly just change what the configure/build scripts look for but I didn't try that...) and you might or might not have to apply a patch sitting in the bugtracker plus you have to do make like: make GLOBAL_CFLAGS='-Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused-parameter' to get rid of the cc1 error.

that got youtube working for me atleast.


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#3 2007-03-22 10:45:18

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

Gnash is not unstable. It just lacks some features.

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#4 2007-03-22 11:02:17

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Re: gnash moved extra

Yes, gnash works quite well for playing back simple flash banners and some more complex stuff. I've not had any problems with stability.

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#5 2007-03-22 11:25:16

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Re: gnash moved extra

gnash is not the only plugin. swfdec can also be used. http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/

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#6 2007-03-22 12:44:38

Pierre
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Re: gnash moved extra

I think unreleased software should allways be in [unstable] and not in [extra].

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#7 2007-03-22 13:32:35

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/release-0.7.2.txt + http://gnash.lulu.com/?q=node/2

read there and you will know that it was indead released and why it will still take some time untill the next one. the x86_64 developers wanted to have the best working solution in the official repos to close the gap to i686. and don't forget that we want to support OpenSourceSoftware wherever possible over any other wink

[unstable] repo is for *additional* svn/cvs packages where already a stable package in current/extra exists or for packages with major known issues.

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#8 2007-04-28 21:24:46

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

Noneus wrote:

gnash is not the only plugin. swfdec can also be used. http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/

i've updated the swfdec library and added swfdec-mozilla. with that plugin we can watch now youtube.com movies. it plays banners as well.
for more read http://blog.archlinux.org/2007/04/28/yo … on-x86_64/

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#9 2007-04-28 23:39:57

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Re: gnash moved extra

I just compiled and installed the new swfdec library and swfdec-mozilla on i686 and you tube works well. The only annoyance is that an animation start with a || because it is paused instead of autoplaying.

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#10 2007-04-30 18:27:44

Pierre
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Re: gnash moved extra

swfdec works better than I expected. Does anybody know why I cannot use it with konqueror? And why does it depend on all those gnome-libs?

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#11 2007-05-01 00:19:55

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

i've uploaded a new gnash snapshot. now also gnash plays youtube pretty well, still consuming high cpu load. the konqueror plugin still cannot be compiled here. if you can get it built tell me how.

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#12 2007-05-02 18:47:13

Jacek Poplawski
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Re: gnash moved extra

So where is gnash now? I don't see it in any repo.

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#13 2007-05-02 18:51:02

Pierre
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Re: gnash moved extra

[pierre@athlon64 ~]$ pacman -Ss gnash
extra/gnash 0.7.2.20070501-1
    A GNU Flash movie player.

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#14 2007-05-02 18:54:45

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Re: gnash moved extra

Jacek: This is Arch64 stuff.


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#15 2007-05-02 18:55:41

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

no i686 dev has it built so far for their repos.

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#16 2007-05-11 17:08:19

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Re: gnash moved extra

AndyRTR wrote:
Noneus wrote:

gnash is not the only plugin. swfdec can also be used. http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/

i've updated the swfdec library and added swfdec-mozilla. with that plugin we can watch now youtube.com movies. it plays banners as well.
for more read http://blog.archlinux.org/2007/04/28/yo … on-x86_64/

Just asking.....does this work on non 64 bit machines???
I was looking for a reasonably good alternative to non-free flash!!!


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#17 2007-05-11 23:04:50

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Re: gnash moved extra

s26c.sayan wrote:

Just asking.....does this work on non 64 bit machines???
I was looking for a reasonably good alternative to non-free flash!!!

It certainly does (gnash, not the 64 bit package, that is), but it's pretty buggy and crash-prone at the moment. It's certainly not at the same state as the non-free flash plugin. Once it's more stable and feature-rich, expect a lot of users to be switching..


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#18 2007-05-29 21:24:29

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

I've uploaded a new snapshot. performance issues seems to be solved now. i can watch youtube with only ~2% load. feel free to rebuild it for i686 locally until the it will hit the 32bit repos.

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#19 2007-05-29 22:45:34

phrakture
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Re: gnash moved extra

I put it in the i686 repos - I guarantee nothing, but it should work ok.  I will do some better tests later.

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#20 2007-05-30 19:11:02

test1000
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Re: gnash moved extra

for everyone with choppy audio and/or the latest cvs version try this which worked for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=458474 (i might have had to change period_size to 4048 to get rid of some rare hangs, though i'm not sure..)

and pps2: Anyone have a clear concise explanation of the alsa config syntax?


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#21 2007-07-31 03:27:19

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Re: gnash moved extra

AndyRTR wrote:

sorry to all konqueror users: klash plugin still doesn't compile. i'll have an eye on it - if you find a way to get it built let me know!

It may not be Klash, but it's another possiblity:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/s … 00423.html

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#22 2007-08-07 07:42:41

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Re: gnash moved extra

now I can see youtube with a good quality on x86_64.... that can't be said about the audio..


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#23 2007-08-28 21:44:45

AndyRTR
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Re: gnash moved extra

update: we felt bored at FroSCon and have splitted our gnash pkg into one gnash-common pkg replacing the old gnash and two new gnash-{gtk,kde} browser plugins.

yes. konqueror is now supported. banners work there now. one problem for konqui users:  https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?20888 . this one has been mask as stopper for the 0.8.1 release and should be quickly fixable. youtube had already worked until a recent commit broke it. gnash-gtk is working quiet well.

beyond the splitting we had to move away from openGL rendering to new agg rendering engine. that's the only one reported to work with konqueror. also the rendering quality should be even better and the cpu load seems to be quiet accaptable.

so please test the packages from testing repo and report issues you will find.

http://www.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Release_0.8.1 for further upstream changes.

PS: i still prefer swfdec. there's also kde support planned.

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#24 2007-09-23 09:53:15

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Re: gnash moved extra

no news with the gnash-youtube-konqueror issue??


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#25 2007-09-23 09:56:39

Pierre
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Re: gnash moved extra

Nope. But you can try nspluginwrapper which works fine with konqueror now.

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