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#1 2026-03-03 09:40:53

elaiolado
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Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

This is a system76 gazelle, I've dropped their pop os and installed arch.

Initially I had gpu issues but disabling the laptop monitor (using external monitor) and setting the power profile to battery has "solved" it.

Now I can't sort out the other crash I'm having. It happens quite randomly and not too often. I can use the laptop for a few days without having this crash, even though once or twice it has happened not too long after booting.

Running journalctl -b -1 on rebooting after the crash, this seems to be it: https://pastebin.com/Egaa6Kwj

Any help?

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#2 2026-03-03 19:39:06

V1del
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

Do you have any concurrent network services?

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

, also in doubt limiting to just kernel logs or just the dump might loose relevant context and it'd be better if we had a full journal's worth of output to be able to identify potential correlations.

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#3 2026-03-04 08:46:03

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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

V1del wrote:

Do you have any concurrent network services?

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

, also in doubt limiting to just kernel logs or just the dump might loose relevant context and it'd be better if we had a full journal's worth of output to be able to identify potential correlations.

Thanks for the reply. I don't think I have any concurrent network services, here's the output: https://pastebin.com/raw/gPff17Di

I don't have the entire journal now, I'll see if I get it next time, but I remember looking for something that could've been logged before the crash and there was nothing.

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#4 2026-03-04 09:16:37

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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

I actually just had a quick freeze that lasted 2 seconds and didn't require me to reboot, and journalctl/dmesg show these network related errors.

journalctl --since today: https://pastebin.com/Pbc7N2Vc
dmesg -T: https://pastebin.com/xBUP3e7R

Seems to be the same error, but didn't require a reboot this time.

Last edited by elaiolado (2026-03-04 12:35:30)

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#5 2026-03-04 10:56:17

elaiolado
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

It's kinda freezing more than before, and it's not always requiring system reboot. And it's not always that random, sometimes it seems triggered by something I run that requires the internet, for example running a git command.

I've looked around (web and llms) and some say it could be related to power saving mode. I'm on system76-power battery profile, so that could be related. But if I leave battery profile I'm probably going to get gpu-related crashes --- hard to test.

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#6 2026-03-04 18:53:19

seth
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

I'm on system76-power battery profile, so that could be related.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_ … interfaces - but obviously you want to *disable* power saving here.

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#7 2026-03-06 10:27:15

elaiolado
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

I tried this:

/etc/iwd/main.conf
[DriverQuirks]
PowerSaveDisable=*

Crashed again, however now I can see a different error: https://pastebin.com/3yT8kaRL

The stack begins with:

Mar 06 06:32:58 rsys kernel: wlan0: Limiting TX power to 30 (30 - 0) dBm as advertised by 98:7e:ca:2b:d6:2e

That looks like my router telling my laptop to do something and it caused the crash.

Last edited by elaiolado (2026-03-06 10:27:49)

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#8 2026-03-06 11:05:31

elaiolado
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

A few settings I currently have:

$ cat /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters/power_save
N
$ cat /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters/power_level
0
$ iwctl station wlan0 show
                                 Station: wlan0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Settable  Property              Value
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Scanning              no
            State                 connected
            Connected network     <redacted>
            IPv4 address          192.168.15.4
            ConnectedBss          98:7e:ca:2b:d6:2e
            Frequency             5640
            Channel               128
            Security              WPA2-Personal
            RSSI                  -37 dBm
            AverageRSSI           -39 dBm
            RxMode                802.11ac
            RxMCS                 9
            TxMode                802.11ac
            TxMCS                 9
            TxBitrate             866700 Kbit/s
            RxBitrate             866700 Kbit/s
            InactiveTime          618 ms
            ConnectedTime         3350 s
$ cat /sys/module/cfg80211/parameters/ieee80211_regdom
00

Seems like my router is pushing regulatory information and `00` in `ieee80211_redgom` means "world" mode which should disable handling this already?

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#9 2026-03-06 17:10:03

seth
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Re: Laptop randomly freezes, looks related to the network stack

The router isn't really telling you anything but the chip seeks to constrain the tx power accordingly (that's normal) and at this point a firmware stall gets exposed.
There's no way to tell whether it was also caused by that command.

cat /sys/module/iwlwifi

Mind the iwlmvm setting and the userspace

Another thing you can try is wpa_supplicant instead of iwd and it would also be interesting to see the entire journal of the boot (and whether maybe roaming causes this - resp. what causes the reconnection ahead of the FW crash itfp, S3/s2idle etc et pp.)

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