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May be not a really 'Arch-lovin' topic, but I was wondering which distributions are may be even other operating systems are still on your list to try, or are you thinking of somewhere back in your mind to switch to some day.
And then it is ofcourse nice to know why you would make such a step also
I think the Arch developers can learn from it, and at the other side, we can learn from it too
So, I will start;
My next choice will be FreeBSD.
Why?
Because I think it is one of the safest and most organised operating systems available at the moment.
Arch is good, some other distro's I have used before are good, but I do have BSD in my mind for more then a year already.
For me, there was a link of BSD = Difficult always, but I have learned a lot, and now I even found out the documentation, hardware support and community of FreeBSD are even better, sometimes much better then for most Linux distro's.
But till then, I am a happy Arch user
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Hopefully, Arch will be my last distro. Admittedly, I think about playing around with Zenwalk (for obvious reasons: also very clean and simple). Maybe Sabayon. But that's just when I get either excessively bored or curious. Right now, I don't have any reason to go anywhere.
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Sure, there's nothing like BSD systems when it comes to clean system, careful organization, stability, etc...
But what I don't like with BSD systems is the console unfriendliness compared to linux.
Especially dark colors in the terminal.
Come on, is super-dark blue that much readable on a black-backgrounded console ???
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I'm not messing around with other distros for a long time. Talking of linux, Arch covers up all my needs!
I would like to try other OSs like FreeBSD, Solaris, MacOSX and the exotic GNU/Hurd
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I set up FreeBSD on my server and having been meaning to mess with it more ever since. Hopefully I'll get a chance to over the summer. I've also been meaning to try LFS/Slackware, and I have a computer that will probably end up dual-booting those two; they've been on my list for quite some time.
I recently got the laptop (Thinkpad X60s) I'll be using for at least the next four years. As of now, it's dual-booting Debian and WinXP, and I don't see that changing in the near future.
I went through a lot of distros before settling on Debian, and even then it ended up being more of a "What the hell, let's install it" choice that turned out for the better. Slackware, although stable, isn't current enough for the hardware I'd like to support; Gentoo seems to be having some political problems and I don't have the time to deal with a lot of things breaking; SourceMage still has a very small user community, and I'd like something a bit more developed; Arch was on there for awhile and I had just started sorting through some of the quirks (like startx taking close to a full 30 sec. to kick in) when I realized there were a few things I disliked about it in general and would like to try something else.
So, Debian. The stability, documentation, large community and massive amount of packages are nice. I've also been pretty happy with the package tools and so far it seems to be well laid out. If I end up switching it will probably be because I'm used to more up to date packages; right now I'm only using unstable for a few things, such as the fingerprint reader driver. If that happens, I expect it will be back to Arch or giving SourceMage a whirl. Arch will stay on this desktop until I leave, at which point I don't plan on taking it with me.
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That would pre-suppose I'm already going to drop ArchLinux ....... I don't see that happening. I've ran scores of others already, none come close to what I want in a distro besides ArchLinux, Debian is close, but Arch is better. So, if ArchLinux went bellyup and I HAD to change, it would be Debian.
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I have a horrible confession to make... I've been using the Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn Beta for the past few weeks. It was supposed to be just a quick install to see what it was like before I installed Arch on my laptop, but it worked so well I just didn't bother to go with Arch.
Yet. ;-)
As I always say when people say they've moved on from Arch: "He'll be back!"
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I don't distro-hop now that I've discovered VMWare. Now when I'm curious about a distro I just try it out in a VM, and delete the image when (not if) I discover I don't like it.
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Arch2?
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I have been meaning to try nexenta.
I downloaded the iso a while ago and burned it..but I think I lost the cd. Will have to download the latest and give it a whirl.
I have also wanted to fiddle more with one of the BSD's. Maybe Net or Dragonfly.
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my own distro from scratch. it's just a matter of time
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I've made up my mind ... Arch is my last distro. But ... if for any reason I was unable to get it anymore I would go back to where I came from : Slackware.
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Well, to be honest, as long as Arch exists and maintains its current design, I don't plan on adopting another distribution as my main os. I may mess around with live cd's, but I doubt even that...I'm just not that interested I guess. Reading reviews and viewing screen shots satisfy my curiosity.
However, if Arch is ever swallowed by a nasty black hole tucked away somewhere in the Internet, I would consider OpenBSD first. I like their attention to detail (auditing code, man pages), their efforts in writing drivers, and their focus on security. However, their packages are usually out-of-date (like pretty much every other o.s. that focuses on security/stability) and I've read that performance isn't great. Also, I consider their stance on closed source drivers good and all, but I can't run my desktop without the nvidia driver...I suppose I would use a laptop in that case. Anyway, that project intrigues me, and I would definitely try it out (I would probably give it a go now if I had a laptop).
OpenBSD aside, I'm not really sure. I guess I would search at that time for the best alternative.
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FreeBSD.
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I've had it with distro hopping and even just experimenting with other distros (I am convinced there is nothing better out there than Arch, IMHO). There's been a few times where I've wanted to make a Arch derivitive, but every time I start designing it I end up with a list of things that can already be easily done with Arch in its current state . So now that I've calmed down and matured after all my bad experiences with other distros and headaches associated with making my own, I've decided to settle down and try to make Arch better rather than just whine and complain like I've done in the past. I'm working (not actively yet....graduation is soon!
) on an installer, I'm planning on a pacman frontend via libalpm, I'm going to continue maintaining AUR packages (although I orphaned a lot of them off when I experimented with *buntu and they've since been adopted by some good people), and I may go through the bug tracker and see where I can help out with things.
But if I were to experiment, I'd try either Nexenta or FreeBSD7 (last version of FBSD I tried was an alpha of 6).
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I have a horrible confession to make... I've been using the Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn Beta for the past few weeks.
As your penance, the mighty flying farina commands you to read the ingredients off the back off a ramen box 3 times, and you will be absolved of your sins in the name of the Judd, the Xentac, and the Sarah31 ghost.
As I always say when people say they've moved on from Arch: "He'll be back!"
O'RLY? My proctologist said the very same thing, and after just one cold hand, I now spoon metamucil into the bottles of my shiner bock.
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I don't think there will be a "next" distro for me as far as my desktop goes. I did a lot of distro hopping and when I landed on Arch I realized I was done. I'm having a bit of a problem with the mirrors at the moment (USA) but I think all will be sorted out in time. Arch is the best (easiest to maintain) MythTV box I've used.
I do have Debian Etch (for stability) on my wife's laptop and I doubt that will change either.
I've been toying with the idea of openbsd for a server, but, I really think I'll just stick to Arch with that box too...when I get around to it.
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Having previously used both FreeBSD and OpenBSD as well as Gentoo and now Archlinux since late 2003 I must say I feel fairly acquainted and confident within the BSD and KISS philosophies, particularly this amazing blend of them both which I found in Archlinux.
Thus, hopefully I'll stick with Archlinux through the foreseeable future, unless I get some spare time and develop a distro which would address and improve one or two minor issues concerning my very own personal taste or be helpful to the community in general. Having said that, it would obviously be a difficult task and most probably better achieved within the Archlinux development team or community.
Nevertheless, a potentially better distro would always have to keep the KISS goal in mind. You don't find a lot of them following it though.
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If i ever get around building packages for FreeBSD i will for sure change.
Sometimes i wish i already had bsd, especially when i once again experience upgrade problems with Arch (quiet regularly every month once on one of my machines).
Maybe, ports won't be that easy. I often hated BSD in the past (came from FreeBSD after Gentoo to Arch) for the reason that some programs simply won't compile in BSD.
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As long as Arch maintains its stability and quality I can't see myself going very far. If the worse came to the worse I'd most likely go back to Slackware. Then again maybe not - Once there are 64 bit versions of flash and acroread I'd like to go 64 bit, and with arch I can do that, but with Slackware chances are a 64 bit version wouldn't be ready.
Theres only one more thing more certain that Arch staying on my desktop, and that is FreeBSD staying on my server.
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Like Echo, I have Debian Etch installed. It works. I haven't yet figured out how to get everything working in Arch, nor started much in the way of customization. Presuming things continue to go well with Arch, I'll probably stick with it and keep Etch as a safety net. If things don't go so well, I'll probably move up to Debian Lenny and use that more & more. I used Etch for about a year or so while it was still in testing mode, and had very few problems. My only dissatisfaction with the Debian process is the way testing stagnates for a long period of time while the release process is underway. It's a very long process! That's what led me back to Arch.
I can't think of another Linux distro I'm interested in at this point ... I think I've tried all of them I thought I might like, and I didn't like any of them as much as I like Debian and Arch. CRUX maybe, but it seems perhaps too difficult for me. I have an aging iMac and I can't see myself going back to OS X, though I might consider a Macbook for a laptop. So if I move on anywhere else, it would probably be to FreeBSD.
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Frugalware, probably- although I will miss AUR a hell of a lot.
I hope Arch is the last Linux stand for me- it does all I want, and it does them in an exemplary way.
I also like Debian Sid/Sidux, and that is all. I will never become an Ubuntu guy, and there's no chance to repeat the mistakes of the past and retry Mandriva.
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Arch is it for me. i check out other distro's, simply to see what others are doing. as far as i am concerned, none can touch arch.
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