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#1 2007-04-16 10:11:35
- juliousdean
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alsa upgrade-no sound
Hi ppl
i upgraded the alsa packages and my kernel but now i have no sound. audacious doesnt work audacity cannot initialise sound I/O etc....
any ideas?
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#2 2007-04-16 11:14:55
- AndyRTR
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
rerun alsaconf?
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#3 2007-04-16 11:21:54
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
tried but no luck!!
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#4 2007-04-16 11:48:24
- Pierre
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Please post more information. For example the output of lspci and lsmod is usefull. You should also have a look at dmesg when loading you sound modules by hand.
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#5 2007-04-16 16:39:57
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Same problem here 
lsmod:
[stefano@archbox ~]$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
ipv6 252864 8
nvidia 6828532 32
ext2 57352 1
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46928 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
ppdev 7556 0
lp 9604 0
snd_pcm_oss 39072 0
snd_mixer_oss 14464 1 snd_pcm_oss
analog 10144 0
snd_mpu401 6376 0
snd_mpu401_uart 7040 1 snd_mpu401
ns558 4224 0
parport_pc 35940 1
tuner 59816 0
parport 31176 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
pcspkr 2816 0
saa7134 112864 0
video_buf 20356 1 saa7134
compat_ioctl32 1536 1 saa7134
ir_kbd_i2c 7056 1 saa7134
ir_common 26628 2 saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
videodev 25216 1 saa7134
v4l2_common 22656 3 tuner,saa7134,videodev
v4l1_compat 13956 2 saa7134,videodev
snd_intel8x0 28956 1
ppp_generic 23444 0
slhc 6272 1 ppp_generic
snd_emu10k1 128192 0
snd_rawmidi 19232 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec 95396 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 2432 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 68740 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device 6796 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer 19204 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 3840 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 7044 1 snd_emu10k1
serio_raw 5636 0
snd_page_alloc 7944 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
rtc 10416 0
snd 43876 16 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 6496 1 snd
emu10k1_gp 3200 0
gameport 11784 5 analog,ns558,emu10k1_gp
psmouse 35336 0
ehci_hcd 29964 0
nvidia_agp 6556 1
agpgart 26200 2 nvidia,nvidia_agp
shpchp 29588 0
pci_hotplug 27976 1 shpchp
ohci_hcd 18948 0
i2c_nforce2 5120 0
i2c_core 17792 5 nvidia,tuner,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c,i2c_nforce2
evdev 8192 1
tsdev 6336 0
forcedeth 40200 0
usbcore 112392 3 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
ext3 119176 3
jbd 55336 1 ext3
mbcache 7044 2 ext2,ext3
ide_cd 35744 0
cdrom 34464 1 ide_cd
ide_disk 13312 7
sata_nv 14980 0
libata 94228 1 sata_nv
generic 4740 0 [permanent]
amd74xx 13852 0 [permanent]
ide_core 108744 4 ide_cd,ide_disk,generic,amd74xx
[stefano@archbox ~]$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 0 (rev c1)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev c1)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev c1)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev c1)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev c1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1)
01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
01:08.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 0a)
01:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)lsmod:
[stefano@archbox ~]$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
ipv6 252864 8
nvidia 6828532 32
ext2 57352 1
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46928 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
ppdev 7556 0
lp 9604 0
snd_pcm_oss 39072 0
snd_mixer_oss 14464 1 snd_pcm_oss
analog 10144 0
snd_mpu401 6376 0
snd_mpu401_uart 7040 1 snd_mpu401
ns558 4224 0
parport_pc 35940 1
tuner 59816 0
parport 31176 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
pcspkr 2816 0
saa7134 112864 0
video_buf 20356 1 saa7134
compat_ioctl32 1536 1 saa7134
ir_kbd_i2c 7056 1 saa7134
ir_common 26628 2 saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
videodev 25216 1 saa7134
v4l2_common 22656 3 tuner,saa7134,videodev
v4l1_compat 13956 2 saa7134,videodev
snd_intel8x0 28956 1
ppp_generic 23444 0
slhc 6272 1 ppp_generic
snd_emu10k1 128192 0
snd_rawmidi 19232 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec 95396 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 2432 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 68740 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device 6796 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer 19204 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 3840 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 7044 1 snd_emu10k1
serio_raw 5636 0
snd_page_alloc 7944 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
rtc 10416 0
snd 43876 16 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 6496 1 snd
emu10k1_gp 3200 0
gameport 11784 5 analog,ns558,emu10k1_gp
psmouse 35336 0
ehci_hcd 29964 0
nvidia_agp 6556 1
agpgart 26200 2 nvidia,nvidia_agp
shpchp 29588 0
pci_hotplug 27976 1 shpchp
ohci_hcd 18948 0
i2c_nforce2 5120 0
i2c_core 17792 5 nvidia,tuner,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c,i2c_nforce2
evdev 8192 1
tsdev 6336 0
forcedeth 40200 0
usbcore 112392 3 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
ext3 119176 3
jbd 55336 1 ext3
mbcache 7044 2 ext2,ext3
ide_cd 35744 0
cdrom 34464 1 ide_cd
ide_disk 13312 7
sata_nv 14980 0
libata 94228 1 sata_nv
generic 4740 0 [permanent]
amd74xx 13852 0 [permanent]
ide_core 108744 4 ide_cd,ide_disk,generic,amd74xxP.S. I use my mother board sound card
Last edited by Crazypu (2007-04-16 16:51:10)
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#6 2007-04-16 20:58:13
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Nobody have an idea??? I' m sad without music 
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#7 2007-04-17 01:19:41
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Perhaps you are running KDE...check into it in control center audio setup and delete the hardware provided therein and re-initiate alsa selection...apply.
Works for me.......
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#8 2007-04-17 03:57:00
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
same here no sounds.....dammmm....anyone? what the hell just happened?
Last edited by sickhate (2007-04-17 04:01:13)
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#9 2007-04-17 04:53:43
- AndyRTR
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
start alsamixer once and check all channels. even without saving that fixed it for me.
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#10 2007-04-17 04:58:05
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Fixed here..... I reinstalled alsa-lib and alsa-utils 
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#11 2007-04-17 08:01:15
- juliousdean
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
OK fixed here.
Reinstalled alsalib run alsaconf and magic... everything worked.
:>
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#12 2007-04-17 13:25:02
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
im still with no sound...reinstaled alsa-lin alsa-utils, re run alsaconf...aslamixer...still nothuing ....anyhelp?
lsmod|grep '^snd'
snd_usb_audio 73952 0
snd_usb_lib 14208 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 19232 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_hwdep 7044 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46928 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 6796 3 snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 39072 0
snd_mixer_oss 14464 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_intel 16408 3
snd_hda_codec 205184 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm 68740 5 snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer 19204 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 43876 16 snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 7944 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
[sickhate@aRcHaTe ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd/
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 0 2007-04-17 13:53 controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 24 2007-04-17 13:53 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 16 2007-04-17 13:53 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 26 2007-04-17 13:53 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 1 2007-04-17 13:53 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 2007-04-17 13:53 timer
Last edited by sickhate (2007-04-17 13:57:17)
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#13 2007-04-17 13:44:47
- ralvez
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
just to make sure the problem IS your alsa upgrade, downgrade to the previous (it should be fund in /var/cache/pacman/pkg) and if sound returns then you have confirmed is the upgrade.
If that is the case I would remove alsa and then re-install the latest version anew, since obviously something did not get updated.
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#14 2007-04-17 14:14:46
- aRcHaTe
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
i have downgraded alsa-lib and alsa-utils..rebooted and NO SOUND??? reinstaled new alsa-lib and alsa-utils and still no sound....dammm can anyone help???
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46928 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 39072 0
snd_mixer_oss 14464 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_usb_audio 73952 0
snd_usb_lib 14208 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 19232 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 6796 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_hwdep 7044 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hda_intel 16408 3
snd_hda_codec 205184 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm 68740 5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer 19204 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 43876 16 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 7944 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
ls -l /dev/snd/
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 0 2007-04-17 14:10 controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 24 2007-04-17 14:10 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 16 2007-04-17 14:10 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 26 2007-04-17 14:10 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 1 2007-04-17 14:10 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 2007-04-17 14:10 timer
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#15 2007-04-17 20:47:27
- aRcHaTe
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
help please!!!! can anyone help me with this one? NO SOUND?? ive reinstaled the 1.3.0 alsa lib...and still no sound...what the hell just happened?
Last edited by sickhate (2007-04-17 21:12:05)
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#16 2007-04-17 21:46:07
- ralvez
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
OK. So we know that is not alsa.
When you run alsamixer are there any muted controls?
Do you get your card recognized when you run alsaconf?
What kind of sound card do you have? I noticed that your lsmod seems to make reference to a usb sound card... is that the case?
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#17 2007-04-17 22:42:34
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yes ive ran alsamixer many times...reinstalled again and again alsa...ran alsaconf many times..soundcard is snd-hda-intel...is a onboard card...
this is really anoying.....
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#18 2007-04-17 23:53:08
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ok this is what ive done...since kernel beyond is not updated i used this one...and the sound WORKS like a charme!!!!! the problm could only be from the alsa patch that is on the kernel...is it really necessary that patch??
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#19 2007-04-18 00:07:16
- ralvez
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
OK. Then to troubleshoot the problem, start at the most basic level.
1. Go to your BIOS and make sure the embedded sound card has not been disabled for some weird reason. If it did set it back on again.
2. I can see that you have: "snd_hda_codec 205184 1 snd_hda_intel" so that's good
3. make sure nothing is disconnected from your system and volumes are at least at 50% on the speakers
4. issue the command "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" Notice any errors that may show up in the console, if you do get them, and post them.
5. When you run alsaconf **is your card found**? This is important and you did not answer that question before but we need as much info as we can get since it is hard to troubleshoot over the Internet.
Give it a try and post.
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#20 2007-04-18 00:14:14
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
ok this is what ive done...since kernel beyond is not updated i used this one...and the sound WORKS like a charme!!!!! the problm could only be from the alsa patch that is on the kernel...is it really necessary that patch??
OK then. If that is the situation then it answers most of the questions. The problem seems to be related to the update, so keep the version you are now using that works. You do not HAVE to update.
It would be interesting to know what the problem is because it may help the devs in case there is a bug that affects some systems, but if it works that's all you care for now.
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#21 2007-04-18 00:14:24
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the is working with kernel26beyond....the alsaconf detects my sound card as allways....i tryed aplay...no errors found...why kernel26beyond plays the sound and the ck or the normal kernel doesnt??
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#22 2007-04-18 00:26:21
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i believe is from the alsa patch that is on the latest kernels....but there is no error to be found....i hope some devs awnser...
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#23 2007-04-18 07:02:43
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
sickhate, I've had some similar problems (only managed to get sound working after boot by running alsaconf) after the alsa upgrade. I'm running KDE, so just now I started kmix and noticed that PCM was switched off. Switching it on and now it works, also directly after boot. Anyway, just a thought...
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#24 2007-04-18 16:37:12
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
sickhate, I've had some similar problems (only managed to get sound working after boot by running alsaconf) after the alsa upgrade. I'm running KDE, so just now I started kmix and noticed that PCM was switched off. Switching it on and now it works, also directly after boot. Anyway, just a thought...
bebo thanks for the help.. but im still with no sound..i dont understand ive tryed everything..im using gnome...tryed gnome-alsamixer..one thing ive notice theres missing some config things from alsamixer...there are only 6 channels and no side speaker...but only on the lastest kernel...since i earesed the 6..that was working perfectly this one is the cause that stop the sound....i hope that any developer see this...
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#25 2007-04-18 17:15:47
- xor
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Re: alsa upgrade-no sound
Hi,
not sure if it helps but I remember that I had similar problem a few times.
Try to force the module load order.
in my rc.conf modules are loaded in following order:
MODULES=(rtc aes-i586 twofish agpgart intel-agp drm dm-crypt e1000 ipw3945 snd-hda-intel fuse)
Thinkpad x60s with inte sound.
If you get sound working use rc.local to load alsa settings after reboot, mine got lost after every reboot.
Just add:
alsactl restore
Worth a try..
Regards,
xor
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