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#1 2007-04-22 12:28:40
- radek4
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sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
Hello!
I have problem with sound, it is mute all the time and i don't know way ;/.
I using latest Arch 0.8 stable with updates, kernel: 2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT
My sound card is HDA INTEL on Realtek ALC 861 chipset, alsamixer version v1.0.14rc2.
I add my user to audio group and to rc.conf in demons i add @alsa.
Alsamixer show that sound is unmute You can see it on: http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … xercw4.jpg
alsa scontrol show me:
[radq@radek-host ~]$ amixer scontrols
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Simple mixer control 'Mixer',0
Simple mixer control 'Caller ID',0
Simple mixer control 'Off-hook',0Soo i try to unmute it like that
# amixer set Master 75 unmutebut didn't work.
I using kde but KMIX don't mute sound i check. Even if I work without X server, sound is mute.
Please Help me!
//Sorry for my English but this language is not my native 
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#2 2007-04-22 13:58:29
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
i'm sure u also need to set the PCM value,
amixer set Master 75% unmute
amixer set PCM 90% unmuteLast edited by sl (2007-04-22 13:59:29)
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#3 2007-04-22 14:21:34
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I would recommend you put all the controls up. I, for example, do not have (in my Intel mobo) a 'Main' but a 'Front Mi' channel and did not get sound until that was up.
Open 'alsamixer' and then put up all the controls, then (as root) issue 'alsactl store' to save the settings and try again
R.
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#4 2007-04-22 14:32:41
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
Have you used alasamixer to try to unmute the sound?
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#5 2007-04-22 22:27:04
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
Yes I try use alsamixer to unmute sound but didn't work, alsamixer don't show me that any of sound is mute. Thats my personal opinion that my sound is mute because is hardly to hear somethink.
aamixer set PCM 90% unmute
amixer set PCM 90% unmutedidn't work, i try unmute any of chanels by typeing
amixer scontrolsand amixer set name_of_chanel 90% unmute
but also didn't work.
Also all controls I put up. Stil the same problem ;(
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#6 2007-04-23 02:37:39
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
could it possibly be your speakers (bad speakers)?
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#7 2007-04-23 03:08:20
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
are you loading the necessary sound modules?
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#8 2007-04-23 03:15:36
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
do you have the sound muted in some application like xine or mplayer? xine takes over everything for me. when it's muted in xine, everything else is also muted even if xine isn't running. 
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#9 2007-04-23 10:51:30
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
i have a similar problem with the same hardware. i have sound, but i cant really control it. pcm wont let me lower the volume. but in mplayer for example i can lower it. so, what channel does mplayer control?
btw: i only load snd-pcm-oss at boot, all the other modules for my soundsystem are loaded by default. i can post my lsmod output later.
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#10 2007-04-23 11:57:48
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I have a similar problem with my hda card. if I load hda module controls are wrong. If I load the module with model=3stack-660, they are correct, BUT they miss PCM ! I have to do 'alsactl restore' with a specially crafted /etc/asound.state to 'activate' PCM and then control it. note that I don't have mute/unmute either on PCM, but only on Front, but Front does not have a volume slider. That card of mine is designed for pcm to control output gain, and front/lfe/center/back/headphones/line to be on/off switches.
$ cat /etc/asound.state
state.Intel {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Front Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Surround Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Center Playback Switch'
value true
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'LFE Playback Switch'
value true
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 23'
iface MIXER
name 'CD Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'CD Playback Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 23'
iface MIXER
name 'Line Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.8 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Line Playback Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 23'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.10 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.11 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Front Mic Playback Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.13 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 13'
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.14 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.15 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Mic
comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
comment.item.2 Line
comment.item.3 CD
comment.item.4 Mixer
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Source'
value Mixer
}
control.16 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 '2ch'
comment.item.1 '6ch'
iface MIXER
name 'Channel Mode'
value '2ch'
}
control.17 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Off-hook Switch'
value false
}
control.18 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Caller ID Switch'
value false
}
control.19 {
comment.access 'read write user'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Playback Volume'
value.0 176
value.1 176
}
}that's totally weird, but unless I load this (taken care automatically by /etc/rc.d/alsa) PCM does not even show up yet alsactl does not complain about loading this file and setting volumes accordingly. after that, the card is fully functional.
Last edited by lloeki (2007-04-23 12:02:19)
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#11 2007-04-23 13:03:26
- radek4
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
Speakers are good (the are working in other operating system). That's not mplayer or xine (i don't have xine) fault, one think wonder me in mplayer because when i run gmplayer volume control is on bottom, strange because in alsamixer i have evrythink up 
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[radq@radek-host ~]$ lsmod|grep '^snd'
snd_seq_oss 29184 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 46928 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 6796 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 39072 0
snd_mixer_oss 14464 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_intel 231960 0
snd_pcm 68740 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 19204 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 43876 8 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc 7944 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcmi think thats right modules, i erase everythink i modprobe.conf and udev load the same module as modporbe in the past.
A copy setting from previous post to my asaund.state but nothing change.
My asaund.state is:
state.Intel {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Master Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 23'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Volume'
value.0 19
value.1 19
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Mic Playback Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 13'
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Volume'
value.0 13
value.1 13
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type ENUMERATED
comment.count 1
comment.item.0 Mic
comment.item.1 'Front Mic'
comment.item.2 Line
comment.item.3 CD
comment.item.4 Mixer
iface MIXER
name 'Capture Source'
value Mic
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Off-hook Switch'
value true
}
control.8 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Caller ID Switch'
value true
}
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Playback Volume'
value.0 255
value.1 255
}
}Last edited by radek4 (2007-04-23 13:05:28)
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#12 2007-04-23 16:20:36
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
You'll have to set the OSS mixer settings first, and then ALSA mixer settings (if you use the volume control in gnome). I not quite sure how they're related in pure alsamixer though...
Are you sure the bars in alsamixer are "activated", since you can raise the bars, and still have them muted (if it reads "MM" at the bottom). unmute with, "m" button, obviously!
As someone said earlier, sometimes the "label" for the channel might not be what you might think it is.
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#13 2007-04-23 21:47:50
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I pretty sure that buttons are activated, i install to check that other mixer like: wmix, aumix, gnome-alsamixer.
I remove alsa-oss, i don't think that i need it anymore, so problem of relation beetwen alsamixer and OSS I think is close.
I try to raise the bar of volume control of any of chanels and anyone of them is mute now. The problem cano't be in in changed "label" because in the past the sound work fine but 3 day ago stop working the same good as before.
Maybe someone who has the same card working will send me his asaund.state maybe that could help me, or maybe I should change the sound system to oder the alsa?
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#14 2007-04-23 23:55:38
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
Do 'groups' in a terminal an check if you have 'audio'.
If not as root: gpasswd -a 'yourusername'' audio
-- mixtr
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#15 2007-04-24 20:15:34
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I add my user to audio groupe, the same think hapen i root account i he is probably in evry groupe.
Someone read that:
http://www.archlinux.org/news/312/
thies news has been added few days ago, i have newest upgrade in my Arch so maybe thats fault of newest kernel and alsa?
What can i do to go back to Archlinux 0.8 standart kernel and previous alsa?
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#16 2007-04-30 14:56:30
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I have the same problem with my sound. Have checked everything in this thread. Everything seems ok, but no sound.
My soundchip.
Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller
This is the update that broke it.
[04/30/07 11:19] synchronizing package lists
[04/30/07 11:20] starting full system upgrade
[04/30/07 12:12] upgraded binutils (2.17-2 -> 2.17-3)
[04/30/07 12:12] upgraded ghostscript (8.15.4-1 -> 8.15.4-2)
[04/30/07 12:12] upgraded hal-info (0.20070402-1 -> 0.20070425-1)
[04/30/07 12:13] upgraded kernel26 (2.6.20.7-2 -> 2.6.20.10-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded libfontenc (1.0.3-1 -> 1.0.4-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded net-tools (1.60-10 -> 1.60-11)
[04/30/07 12:14] installed libdatrie (0.1.1-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] installed libthai (0.1.8-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded pango (1.16.2-1 -> 1.16.4-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded shared-mime-info (0.20-1 -> 0.21-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded thunderbird (1.5.0.10-1 -> 2.0.0.0-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded vte (0.16.1-2 -> 0.16.3-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded x11vnc (0.8.5-1 -> 0.9.1-1)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded xorg-font-utils (1.0.3-1 -> 1.0.3-2)
[04/30/07 12:14] upgraded xorg-fonts-encodings (1.0.2-1 -> 1.0.2-2)EDIT: And the solution was. Reboot into Vista, update it, and rebot again into Vista. Then reboot back into Arch, and voila. Sound is back. Or maybe it was because i turned the computer completely off. I don't know. But there is sound now.
-orjanp
Last edited by orjanp (2007-04-30 18:20:14)
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#17 2007-04-30 20:00:52
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Re: sound is mute all the time, can't unmute it
I highly doubt it was because you booted into vista, something in the OS (Linux/Arch) was probably not loaded correctly or initialized correctly
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