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Ichji

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From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Recommendations for a new PC

I am currently planning to compose myself a new Desktop PC.

Would be kinda nice to recommend me a "non bottle-neck" Arch Linux compatible Hardware Combination.

Main Goals are:

Silence
Cooling
Price
32 Bit

Perfomance would be only icing.

Thanks in Advance

chaosgeisterchen

Member

From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Are you definitely going for a desktop machine?

Nowadays I'd rather recommend a notebook + external keyboard/mouse/display(/HDD), it does the job as a desktop pc when you need it as such and is portable when you need it to be portable.

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Ichji

Member

From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

I was rather going for a desktop and a portable.

Just in case I fuck something up (which happens quite frequently) the other machine would be functional.

See it as a insurance.

Btw: I want an Intel one but I can't seem to figure out what counts as i686 32 Bit and what not my google skills lack.

I was thinkin about Intel Pentium 4 HT 3.0E or whatever it was called.

Any thoughts?

samoturk

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From: Ljubljana, Slovenia

Registered: 2007-02-12

Posts: 86

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Why would you buy souch an old processor? You can stil run 32 bit OS on new AMD and Intel processors. Pentium 4 processors generated too much heat. If you want silent machine you should use energy efficent processor something like ATHLON 64 BE-2350, so that you don't need loud coolers.

Ichji

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From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Since I stated that I am currently unable to look through the dense processor woods I just didn't know any better.

So I won't get problems running an 64 Bit Dual Core CPU in 32 Bit Mode?

Since I've been looking through some stuff I would go in the direction of  Intel and Nvidia Hardware

But since I don't know any better school me

(Never been the hardware dude)

samoturk

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From: Ljubljana, Slovenia

Registered: 2007-02-12

Posts: 86

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

You will have absolutely no problems running 32bit OS on 64 bit processor. These new processors can act either as 32 bit or 64 bit processor depending on OS. If OS is 32 bit it just won't use 64bit stuff.

If you want budget system you can choose from core 2 duo E2140 or E2160 which are 68€ an 88€ respectively here in Slovenia. Than you have to choose from one of many socket 775 motherboards. I'd recommend one with Intel chipset. Because you said you'd like silent system I recommend passively cooled graphics card. There are many to choose from on the market.

pjeremy

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Registered: 2007-04-03

Posts: 66

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

What's your budget?
http://silentpcreview.com/  read this

Here's a setup I posted about a month ago

Antec P182 SE Chrom Edition Midi-Tower € 198,-*
Abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 € 109,-*
OCZ DIMM 4 GB DDR2-800 Kit (OCZ2G8004GK, XTC Gold) € 284,-
Intel® Core 2 Quad Q6600 Boxed, FC-LGA4, 4x 2400 MHz 2x 4096 kByte 1066 MHz (Quadpumped) Kentsfield € 259,-*
Arctic Silver ArctiClean 30+30ml € 4,90*
Zalman ZM-STG1 € 7,-*
Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme € 54,-*
Seasonic S12Energy+550 Active PFC, 2x PCIe 550 Watt ATX12V 2.2, ATX 2.03, EPS, 9x 5,25",6x SATA  € 124,-*
2x Scythe SFlex 1200rpm 120x120x25 € 14,-* = € 28,-
Scythe SFlex 1600rpm 120x120x25 € 14,-*
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74 GB 4,5/16/10000 Serial ATA/150 € 124,-*
2x Samsung HD321KJ SpinPoint T166 320 GB 8,9/16/7200 Serial ATA/300 € 64,-* = € 128,-
Asus EN7600GS TOP 512MB Silent/HTD (Retail, TV-Out, DVI) € 129,-*
2x LG GSA-H55N € 42,-* = € 84,-
Teac floppydrive (black,  integrated Cardreader) € 24,-*

Total: € 1570,90

The graphics card is far from being great, but I don't play games.

Ichji

Member

From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Up until 400 Euro maximum.

I don't need all this fancy card reader and floppy stuff

Hard Drive and DVD Reader is enough. Sound can be integrated and graphics well just needs to run Diablo 2

Monitor, Keyboard, Speakers and Trackman are all in space.

Last edited by Ichji (2007-08-21 00:42:30)

pjeremy

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Registered: 2007-04-03

Posts: 66

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Mmh, tried to configure something, can't say I'm happy with it... or that I managed to stay within 400EUR
Not really sure about the mainboard and the graphics card.

Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 775, 77 m³/h   € 16,-*
Gainward BP8400GS 256 MB, NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS, PCIe x16, 64 Bit   € 54,-*
Intel® Core 2 Duo E4400 2x 2000 MHz, 2x 1024 kByte, 800 MHz (Quadpumped), Allendale   € 109,-*
Seasonic S12II-430HB 430 Watt, ATX12V 2.2, ATX 2.03, EPS   € 74,-*
Lian Li PC-G50A 4 x 5,25" extern, 3 x 3,5" intern, ATX   € 74,-*
LG GSA-H44NBBLK 18 / 8 / 10, 18 / 6 / 10, 16 / 48, Ultra DMA/33   € 37,90*
Biostar 945P-A7B Intel® 945P, Sockel 775, 1.066 MHz, 1x PCIe x16   € 54,-*
Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320 GB, 8,9/16/7200, Serial ATA/300   € 69,-*
OCZ DIMM 2 GB DDR2-667 Kit 2048 MB, CL5 5-5-15, PC2 5300   € 92,-*

Total: € 579,90*

Ichji

Member

From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Hmm I guess I have to get myself employed to earn some money

Right now my Setup is pretty worthless but it was only 100 Euro:

AMD Athlon XP 2000+
MSI Something Mainboard Nforce 2 with AGPx8
768 MB RAM (three different manufacturers with three different clock timings)
Sapphire Radeon X1550
Seagate IDE 720 RPM Harddrive (40 GB)

Used of course. Got it from a friend of mine

shining

Pacman Developer

Registered: 2006-05-10

Posts: 2,043

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

Hmm I guess I have to get myself employed to earn some money

Right now my Setup is pretty worthless but it was only 100 Euro:

AMD Athlon XP 2000+
MSI Something Mainboard Nforce 2 with AGPx8
768 MB RAM (three different manufacturers with three different clock timings)
Sapphire Radeon X1550
Seagate IDE 720 RPM Harddrive (40 GB)

Used of course. Got it from a friend of mine

The 3 desktop pc we have are just slightly better than that (two of them have better cpu, and they all have more disk space),
and it's more than enough for running as a desktop, and for the fps games I play (warsow, quake 3, enemy territory).
Since I switched to Linux and stopped playing newly released games, I never felt the need for more powerful hardware.

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Ichji

Member

From: Hamburg, Germany

Registered: 2006-12-21

Posts: 13

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

It runs nicely yes. It might be more than enough for what I am doing but I'm feeling that there are to much bottlenecks in it (a 512 MB Graphics Card with a 1 Gigahertz Processor anyone?)

I always had some badly composed PC because we're not that rich (not that I have any big problems with it) and somehow I have the urgent need for a nice cheap silent desktop that is well composed without any major bottlenecks.

I don't need 2 GB Ram. 1 G Ram would be enough (Dual Channel preferred)

wuischke

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From: Suisse Romande

Registered: 2007-01-06

Posts: 630

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

I see you're German, so I'll just use Alternate for reference.

Imho if you want a cheap, silent and energy efficient system, then go for an AMD system with everything integrated. The integrated graphic will have more than enough power for Diablo II and you can still add a graphics card later if you need more.

Here's an example configuration. You can go cheaper if you take a case with integrated PSU (this configuration won't take much power, unless you plan to add a graphics card) and with a smaller hdd.
I choose the case + the PSU for the 120mm fans, which are usually a lot quiter than 80mms or - god beware - 60mms without the need for any modifications.
You might want a different mainboard as well, if you prefer a DVI connection to the monitor.

AMD Athlon X2 BE-2350 (CPU + cooler)- 84€
Cooler Master eXtremePower 430W (PSU)- 44€
Asus TA-662 (case)- 29€
Arctic-Cooling AF12025 PWM (Additional 120mm fan) - 3,30€
GigaByte MA69VM-S2 (mainboard) - 49€
Seagate ST3400833AS (hdd) - 69€
OCZ DIMM 1 GB DDR2-800 Kit (Ram, dual channel) - 46€
Asus DVD-E616A3 (DVD drive) - 15,90€
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€ 340,20

gothmog.todi

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From: Austria

Registered: 2007-07-18

Posts: 120

Re: Recommendations for a new PC

you may want to take a look at http://www.silenthardware.de/forum . The people there helped me a lot with building a silent system.