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#1 2007-09-06 14:45:12

Jacek Poplawski
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xorg 7.3

xorg 7.3 has been released!
now let's wait for Arch packages smile

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#2 2007-09-06 15:05:01

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Re: xorg 7.3

sweet


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#3 2007-09-06 15:42:35

Xilon
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Re: xorg 7.3

I don't think it's going to be easy. Seems Xrandr 1.2 will cause some breakage... Best of luck to the devs! smile

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#4 2007-09-06 16:34:48

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Re: xorg 7.3

sweet.. I hope it detects my usb intellimouse automagically so that all buttons work as it should.. Right now I have some settings in xorg.conf for that. maybe I wont need xorg.conf after this update.

Just thought of this..
So If i dont have a xorg.conf, how can I tell it to use EXA instead of XAA? or set it up for compiz-fusion? Does this mean I still gonna need my xorg.conf?

Last edited by jinn (2007-09-06 16:36:00)


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#5 2007-09-06 18:02:46

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Re: xorg 7.3

jinn wrote:

Just thought of this..
So If i dont have a xorg.conf, how can I tell it to use EXA instead of XAA? or set it up for compiz-fusion? Does this mean I still gonna need my xorg.conf?

Yes, like everyone else.


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#6 2007-09-06 18:35:50

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Re: xorg 7.3

Xilon wrote:

Best of luck to the devs! smile

who?


oh yes...   them   :evil:


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#7 2007-09-06 20:02:18

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Re: xorg 7.3

The stupid part of this is that if the autodetection works good for everything except X feature(compiz for example) you have to write a complete xorg.conf and can't just add the incriminating section.

braindead.


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#8 2007-09-06 20:13:42

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Re: xorg 7.3

test1000 wrote:

The stupid part of this is that if the autodetection works good for everything except X feature(compiz for example) you have to write a complete xorg.conf and can't just add the incriminating section.

lol, finally someone noticing the same thing smile
Well hopefully that will be improved in 7.4


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#9 2007-09-07 13:53:01

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Re: xorg 7.3

Xilon wrote:

I don't think it's going to be easy. Seems Xrandr 1.2 will cause some breakage... Best of luck to the devs! smile

What breakage?
I've been using xorg-server 1.3.0.0 with the new xf86-video-intel 2.0 and 2.1 drivers some time now .. and didn't have any problems with xrandr 1.2!
and it works like charm.

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#10 2007-09-07 13:59:52

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Re: xorg 7.3

damjan wrote:

Waht breakage?
I've been using xorg-server 1.3.0.0 with the new xf86-video-intel 2.0 and 2.1 drivers some time now .. and didn't have any problems with xrandr 1.2!
and it works like charm.

there are incompatibilities with the Nvidia's driver for example ... and the fix hasn't arrived yet, so there *WILL* be breakages.

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#11 2007-09-07 23:21:07

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Re: xorg 7.3

AFAIK nVidia driver is not part of Xorg.

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#12 2007-09-08 07:00:48

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Re: xorg 7.3

It doesn't matter, the devs need to make sure that everything works.

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#13 2007-09-08 07:39:28

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Re: xorg 7.3

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#14 2007-09-08 14:07:16

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Re: xorg 7.3

they decided it wasn't ready for 7.3, so it's not in.

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#15 2007-09-10 18:30:37

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Re: xorg 7.3

So I just updated w/ 7.3 from testing. All is well. Now what I was wanting to know is, how do I do w/o xorg.conf and still have it use "nvidia" driver?

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#16 2007-09-10 18:34:18

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Re: xorg 7.3

somairotevoli wrote:

how do I do w/o xorg.conf and still have it use "nvidia" driver?

afaik, you can't.  If you want to use the proprietary drivers, you need the xorg.conf

On a side note, why is everyone so anxious to kill their xorg.conf files?  Tons of apps on your system use conf files (heck, init uses one - rc.conf) - why is xorg.conf so undesirable?  If you have one that works great, why kill it because xorg now does some fancy autodetect support?

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#17 2007-09-10 18:35:20

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Re: xorg 7.3

I don't want to kill it...lol... I am just bored and curious:) Thanks for your reply!

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#18 2007-09-11 11:23:13

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Re: xorg 7.3

Cerebral wrote:

On a side note, why is everyone so anxious to kill their xorg.conf files?  Tons of apps on your system use conf files (heck, init uses one - rc.conf) - why is xorg.conf so undesirable?  If you have one that works great, why kill it because xorg now does some fancy autodetect support?

Because pretty much no one has one that works great.  Honestly I've never seen something that is so powerful, so necessary and with such sporadic documentation (and so many different configuration tools which all work so differently).
I'm short, it's confusing as all hell.

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#19 2007-09-11 11:25:38

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Re: xorg 7.3

I prefer somairotevoli's answer smile


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#20 2007-09-11 15:05:48

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Re: xorg 7.3

I think it's really confusing...it would be great to get rid of it smile

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#21 2007-09-11 15:18:12

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Re: xorg 7.3

why is everybody picking on such a wonderful, cuddly, little config file?  you are taking it for granted and you simply don't appreciate the hard work it's doing!  you'll see, one day when it is finally gone, you'll see...  but it will be too late then!
lol

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#22 2007-09-11 17:46:50

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Re: xorg 7.3

xorg-7.3 is NOT in testing.

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#23 2007-09-11 17:58:24

somairotevoli
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Re: xorg 7.3

So what version is in testing and what version is in current?

I see

testing/xorg-server 1.3.0.0-7 (xorg)
    X.Org X servers

and

current/xorg-server 1.2.0-5
    X.Org X servers

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#24 2007-09-11 18:38:08

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Re: xorg 7.3

For 1.4.0 (xorg 7,3) you must add kth's repo in /etc/pacman.conf and use that instead. You will find it in the x.org 7.3 thread on the Newbie forum.

I think 7.3 will make it to "testing" when nvidia/ati come out with new drivers that can actually run the server without using -ignoreABI.

xorg 7.3 = xorg-server-1.4.0 btw.

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#25 2007-09-11 18:41:12

somairotevoli
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Re: xorg 7.3

So what is 1.3.0?  7.2 1/2 ?

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