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Cerebral · 2007-09-26 20:08:08

For alsa, yeah. Just grab alsa-lib and alsa-utils (and, optionally, add 'alsa' to your DAEMONS in /etc/rc.conf to ensure volume levels get saved across reboots)

For pacman, take a look at /etc/pacman.conf. You just need to uncomment testing. Be warned - testing is for testing purposes, expect the occasional problem with packages from there.

Misfit138 · 2007-09-26 20:11:42

You might want to check the beginner's guide in the wiki, it covers about everything you have come up against so far.

EmyrB · 2007-09-26 20:22:32

Hey thanks guys

I took your advice Misfit138 and went to the wiki and found one on Alsa. I installed alsa-lib and alsa-util and alsa-oss. But everytime I right click on the volume control in Gnome and select open volume control, I get the following error: -

no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices

So I did a lsmod|grep '^snd' like the wiki said and this is my output: -

snd_ens1371            21152  0 
snd_ac97_codec         95652  1 snd_ens1371
snd_rawmidi            19232  1 snd_ens1371
snd_seq_oss            29312  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      6528  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                46672  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          6924  3 snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            37024  0 
snd_pcm                69124  3 snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer              19332  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          7816  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          14592  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    45028  10 snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_

I then issued the unmute commands that the wiki said but still no joy, any ideas?

Cheers

EmyrB

.:B:. · 2007-09-26 22:59:52

EmyrB wrote:

OK, what is the correct locale for the UK, I thought it was en_GB.utf8?

Pardon me, but how did you install, and did you read any installation documentation at all?

EmyrB · 2007-09-27 12:52:38

B wrote:
Pardon me, but how did you install

with a lot of difficulty

B wrote:
and did you read any installation documentation at all

Yep, I followed the ones at http://www.archlinux.org/static/docs/ar … guide.html

Why?

.:B:. · 2007-09-27 14:55:06

Because the documentation talks about rc.conf, setting locales etc. . You have the right locale uncommented in /etc/locale.gen?

EmyrB · 2007-09-27 19:58:31

Hey thanks for that B, I did sort out my locales in the end with the aid of Cerebral and friends. What concerns me now is the problem with either Alsa or GStreamer

Any body have any ideas?

klixon · 2007-09-28 07:28:34

Is your user in the audio group?
If not

gpasswd -a ${USER} audio

EmyrB · 2007-09-29 06:43:41

Hey thanks for that klixon, that worked a treat. I'm not sure if Gnome is installed correctly though. Under Gnome in Debian I have quite a few options under the Administration menu, such as users and groups, services, time and date, etc but under Administration in Arch is just Login Window, is this correct? If so, how do I add more to it? Arch sure has a steep learning curve when compared to Debian, but it is worth it.

hussam · 2007-09-29 06:48:29

The options under administration aren't available for ArchLinux because gnome-system-tools don't work on ArchLinux.

EmyrB · 2007-09-29 07:07:31

Ah right, what a shame . Does anybody know if gnome-system-tools works under gnome 2.20 for Arch?

EmyrB · 2007-09-29 11:24:49

Gah, just when I thought I was almost there...

Right, I issue the command

pacman -Ss amarok

and I get the following

extra/amarok-base 1.4.7-1
      amaroK - a media player for KDE
extra/amarok-engine-xine 1.4.7-1
      xine engine for amaroK
community/exaile 0.2.10-2
         Exaile is a media player aiming to be similar to KDE's AmaroK, but for GTK+

So I pacman amarok-base and it resolves a whole host of dependencies and downloads installs everything, around 37 packages. But Amarok is not showing up under the Sound and Video menu in Applications and when I issue the command amarok in a terminal I get the following error

bash: amarok: command not found

wtf? I just installed it

Any ideas folks?

Misfit138 · 2007-09-29 12:13:43

Did you install fam and place it in your /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS section?

iphitus · 2007-09-29 12:51:17

KDE still lives in /opt, so you need to re-login for it's applications to be in your path. Only after the initial KDE install, any additions after that to kde will be found.

Gnome-system-tools won't work until someone writes a backend for them. I don't know of anyone writing one, so I doubt they'll be working soon. Most of what they control is in /etc/rc.conf, which is pretty simple anyway.

James

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mezoko · 2007-09-30 01:40:46

If you want gnome-system admin stuff arch is not for you, because arch is going to require some work, plus all of your answers have been answered in the wiki.

EmyrB · 2007-09-30 13:12:36

Hey thanks guys

mezoko wrote:

If you want gnome-system admin stuff arch is not for you, because arch is going to require some work, plus all of your answers have been answered in the wiki.

I don't want the system tools, I just asked why distro A has them and distro B hasn't. As iphitus said, most of what gnome-system-tools can do is controlled by /etc/rc.conf.

Forgive my dumb newbie questions, but it takes a while to learn the foibles of a new distro when you have been used to Debian for about 2 years

EmyrB · 2007-10-01 10:20:02

Well what do you know, I am almost there (I hope )

How do I get Arch to auto mount any USB devices? I have a 512MB USB pen drive that I need to access.

Cheers

EmyrB

1311219 · 2007-10-01 10:57:47

You might want to look into using Hardware Abstraction Layer for that:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL

Or maybe use pmount if nothing else works. Good luck!

PJ · 2007-10-01 11:13:06

AutoFS might be another alternative:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AutoFS_HowTo

iphitus · 2007-10-01 12:22:48

thunar does an awesome job.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-01 12:49:23

From the Beginner's guide in the wiki:

Useful DAEMONS for GNOME

Recall from above that a daemon is a program that runs in the background, waiting for
 events to occur and offering services. The hal daemon, among other things, will 
automate the mounting of disks, optical drives, and  USB drives/thumbdrives for
 use in the GUI. The fam daemon will allow real-time representation of file alterations
 in the GUI, allowing instant access to recently installed programs, or changes in the 
file system. Both hal and fam  make life easier for the GNOME user.

You may want to install a graphical login manager. For GNOME, the gdm daemon is a 
good choice. Install gdm with

pacman -S gdm

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EmyrB · 2007-10-01 17:35:55

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I read through the HAL wiki (thanks Misfit138) and I have put hal in the deamons list in /etc/rc.conf and I have added myself to both the DBus and HAL groups.

Now when I plug in my USB pen drive I get a window up which says:

Cannot mount volume
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied

I gather by that error message that as a user I have no access to USB devices, so which group do I need to be a member of as well as the ones mentioned above?

Also, How do I check what device name Arch gives the USB pen drive so I can issue a correct pmount and mount command?

By the way, I really appreciate all your help

Misfit138 · 2007-10-01 17:51:02

Try

gpasswd -a username disk

(This is in the beginner's guide too )

Last edited by Misfit138 (2007-10-01 17:51:20)

EmyrB · 2007-10-01 19:05:04

Misfit138 wrote:

Try

gpasswd -a username disk

Ok, tried that, still the same error.

Grrr... This is so fustrating

EmyrB · 2007-10-01 19:33:01

Ok, an update

I rebooted my Arch box and now the 512MB USB pendrive shows up under Computer, but when I try to access it, it comes up with the same arror as I posted above. But what is strange here is that I have a 2 optical drives on this box and it automounts these with no issues. I have also noted that when I plug in my USB pen drive whilst looking at Computer, it flashes up SanDisk Removable Disk briefly (which it is) before reporting that it is a 488.1 MB Removable Volume

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