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#1 2007-09-19 17:33:48

xfce4
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Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Hi, i've arch "Don't panic" in other partition of hdd. (Now ubuntu)

i want to switch to arch but after the installation, some weird things started to happen..

1- internet connection, very good on other dist's in this laptop, but arch is turtle, especially pacman. it don't start to download sync or program packs, "sometime" it start, then download for 5 minute "good". Then again.. "Connection refused" Why?

2- Programs are slow too. E.g. gnome-terminal opens after 20seconds clicking the icon.

My computer is asus f3sc.. how can i do something for my arch? or i'll wait other version of arch..

Thanks.. neutral

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#2 2007-09-19 17:49:26

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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

read beginnersguide, make sure loopback is enabled, put in hostname, disable ipv6.

i'm pretty sure that will work.

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#3 2007-09-19 19:11:44

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

i've read most of the guide. lo is enabled, (which i see gnome networkmanager) disabled ipv6 (with a line modprobe.conf)

What's the problem? everythig is slow.. is it a chipset driver module problem?

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#4 2007-09-19 19:52:43

stonecrest
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Since you skipped one part of Mikko's message... did you put your hostname in /etc/hosts?


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#5 2007-09-19 20:24:39

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

No, how can i do it? :?

is it that?

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   localhost

# End of file


i changed my host name in rc.conf. how can i fix this?

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
HOSTNAME="hayaXi"
#


what can i write here?

thanks smile

Last edited by xfce4 (2007-09-19 20:27:26)

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#6 2007-09-19 20:32:39

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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Just add your hostname in /etc/hosts like this :

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   localhost hayaXi

# End of file


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#7 2007-09-19 20:39:00

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

thanks.. now i'm editing & boot..

feedback will come.. smile

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#8 2007-09-19 20:46:58

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

it works very good.. sorry, i'm dummy in arch.. but i like this..

THANKS..

(there is some network problems still.. but i thing i can do):)

Last edited by xfce4 (2007-09-19 21:35:00)

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#9 2007-09-20 03:46:29

luuuciano
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Just add your hostname in /etc/hosts like this :

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   localhost hayaXi

# End of file

I have not added my hostname in /etc/hosts... but I am using arch since months ago and all works ok...

but why is it working good?
Do we need to add the hostname in hosts file?


I arch, you arch, he arch, she arch, we arch, they arch...

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#10 2007-09-20 04:12:58

iphitus
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

and the pacman problems, try a different mirror.

James

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#11 2007-09-20 06:28:27

tkjacobsen
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

xfce4 wrote:

it works very good.. sorry, i'm dummy in arch.. but i like this..

Don't be sorry. Arch is all about learning, and the forums are here to help with that -- so just use them.

Last edited by tkjacobsen (2007-09-20 06:29:19)


To save time, reboot your computer in the background using "reboot &"

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#12 2007-09-20 11:09:51

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

So smile i've a problem yet..

Firefox or pidgin internet use is normal, fast.. but pacman can't connect server.. i'm using ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/ as mirror.. and i can't connect this ftp with firefox too.. (but "SometimeS" can connect) :\
but i can everytime send ping successfully this ftp.. :?

i closed my firewall.. should i use other services from my router?  (upnp or nat??)

did i forget sonmething..
what a weird..

Last edited by xfce4 (2007-09-20 11:16:04)

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#13 2007-09-20 11:42:36

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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

xfce4 -> change the servers in your /etc/pacman.d files to servers closer to your location.

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#14 2007-09-20 12:01:26

iphitus
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

xfce4 wrote:

So smile i've a problem yet..

Firefox or pidgin internet use is normal, fast.. but pacman can't connect server.. i'm using ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/ as mirror.. and i can't connect this ftp with firefox too.. (but "SometimeS" can connect) :\
but i can everytime send ping successfully this ftp.. :?

i closed my firewall.. should i use other services from my router?  (upnp or nat??)

did i forget sonmething..
what a weird..

As said above, change the mirror, ftp.archlinux.org is throttled.

James

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#15 2007-09-20 12:39:09

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Thanks. Solved.. smile

Last question: how can i enable special pref's for laptops. like using brightness applet in panel, or cpu frequency selector, battery show applet..

i've installed acpid, powersaved, cpufreq, laptop tools vs..

Last edited by xfce4 (2007-09-20 12:43:17)

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#16 2007-09-20 13:15:54

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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Just a couple of comments...
I am also a newbie to Arch- I only have about 2 or 3 days of experience with it, so discount anything I say here if it's wrong or doesn't work.
When specifying a hostname, for whatever reason, it is typically recommended that the hostname be all lowercase. Yours as above is not.
Any of the software you want to enable will need to have a module and/or a daemon. Depending on how advanced you want to get, you can choose to compile your own kernel. Doing this cut my boot time in half (from 3:30 to 1:50!) and gave me more granular control over which modules I have loaded. I am a big fan of keeping basic system management in the kernel, not as modules.

Add acpid to the DAEMONS array in rc.conf, as well as any other daemons you want to use.

Read the wiki, if you haven't already. I thought it was limited at first because very little is listed on the main page, but the search box will find almost anything you need for this distro there. Also, Gentoo has a great wiki that can help give things to try when you have trouble (www.gentoo-wiki.com). Let me know if you need me to translate something out of Gentoo into Arch speak.

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#17 2007-09-20 16:05:14

jo3
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

I have been using Arch for a couple months now, and linux for about a year, so i'm still very green. But while I use all lowercase letters in my host names, why does it matter? I have not ever heard that before. Can someone explain?
Sorry for high jacking the thread.

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#18 2007-09-20 22:42:30

xfce4
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

it's weird.. really something happens different with/out lowercase?? :\

Last edited by xfce4 (2007-09-20 22:43:44)

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#19 2007-09-21 16:24:32

dspahn
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

I don't know what the 'real-world' problems are that can be caused by using not-all-lowercase letters, but I have seen a few places over the past few years that strongly recommended against giving Linux hosts names with caps in them. I figured I would pass that info along in case it helps. I can't clarify which site(s) and/or distros, because I have experiemnted with quite a few... sorry about the lack of particulars!

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#20 2007-09-22 02:53:14

luuuciano
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

so, after all... if you do not add your hostname in hosts file... do not mater
all works ok?

or, what works bad if you do that?


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#21 2007-10-14 06:21:37

squarebug
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Well, I have the very same problem. I followed all the suggestions (lo enabled, hostname in /etc/hosts in lower case, ipv6 disabled) and still pacman is incredibly slow. I know it's not the mirror choice, I have Arch running on another machine with the same mirrors and that machine behaves just fine. I'm at a loss. Any other ideas?

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#22 2007-10-15 02:30:05

squarebug
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Ok, in my case it actually was a flaky switch this computer was connected to. Bypassed the switch, now everything is fine.

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#23 2007-10-15 18:48:22

tony5429
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Just add your hostname in /etc/hosts like this :

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   localhost hayaXi

# End of file

Mine looks like...

#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname>
127.0.0.1               localhost.localdomain   hayaXi

Is Lone_Wolf's better, mine better, or does it matter?

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#24 2007-10-15 21:13:29

Lone_Wolf
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Some apps connect directly to 127.0.0.1 , some connect to localhost (kde,cups iirc ) and some others (X11 !) connect to hostname .

The line i use works for all 3 cases.
If you leave out localhost the apps that try to connect to localhost may be slower, but they SHOULD still work.


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#25 2007-10-16 18:20:32

tony5429
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Re: Arch is "tooooo" slow!

Thanks! I switched it to include both localhost and my hostname.

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