How to return gnome to english

Dheart · 2007-10-01 15:16:57

I set up my locale to bg_BG.CP1251 and now gnome is in Bulgarian (which doesn't bother me (much) but I prefer it in english. But If I switch the locale to anything else I'm unable to read cyrillic characters in gedit so my question is: How to return gnome to english and keep my locale settings unchanged.

Hohoho · 2007-10-01 15:44:07

Different ways to solve this:
1) set the global locale to english and then use "LANG=bg_BG.CP1251 gedit" for gedit
2) convert files to UTF8 - iconv -f cp1251 -t utf8 input.txt > output.txt
3) use a text editor that can change encodings on the fly, VIM can, im sure KDE's editors can too, also you can read text files with your browser if you dont need to edit them, you can select encodings then too.

I'd say go with option 2, then your files should be readable anywhere.

Dheart · 2007-10-01 16:15:04

Isn't there an option in gnome for changing languages?

foxbunny · 2007-10-02 15:46:45

First off, do NOT use LANG=whatever for Gedit, unless you want Gedit in another language.

Set the locale to an UTF8 english locale, and you'll be able to read ANY language from ANY app. Or at least if you have the appropriate Unicode fonts. Don't use non-UTF8 locales systemwide unless you know for certain that you need to.

Dheart · 2007-10-03 08:34:33

Well on my system if I use locale bg_BG UTF8 I'm no longer able to read most of my cyrillic characters...

foxbunny · 2007-10-03 12:37:09

Hm. Did you try to revert to an en_US.UTF8 locale? Also, did you install fonts correctly? Try installing any font package (any package will do), and then restarting X.

EDIT:
I'm on en_US.UTF8 locale and I have no trouble reading Cyrillic, Japanese, and any other script.

Last edited by foxbunny (2007-10-03 12:37:47)

Hohoho · 2007-10-03 15:09:49

foxbunny, the cyrillic text files he has arent in unicode, he needs to convert em to unicode using iconv.

Dheart · 2007-10-03 18:08:02

Well I guess that's the problem - my cyrillic files aren't in unicode (because most of my cyrillic files are from the Windows partition and are in Windows 1251 encoding (corresponding to the linux CP 1251).
I have all the font packages that include cyrillic characters installed, and even copied most of my Windows installation (I used jacman, used as a search word Cyrillic and installed everything) so it's not missing fonts related problem I would seem like I'll have to start converting my files one by one

foxbunny · 2007-10-03 21:57:32

Dheart wrote:

I would seem like I'll have to start converting my files one by one

Do you have both cp1251 and UTF8 locales in /etc/locale.gen?

Toss me one of those files, if you want. I can see if it loads on my Arch installation. If it works here, then it should be no problem.

EDIT:
Just occured to me. Can you maybe open those files in a web browser and optinally set the encoding manually? If it works, you could copy&paste the text back into an editor.

Last edited by foxbunny (2007-10-03 22:03:57)

Dheart · 2007-10-04 06:27:29

# Configuration file for locale-gen
#
# lists of locales that are to be generated by the locale-gen command.
#
# Each line is of the form:
#
#     <locale> <charset>
#
#  where <locale> is one of the locales given in /usr/share/i18n/locales
#  and <charset> is one of the character sets listed in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps
#
#  Examples:
#  en_US ISO-8859-1
#  en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
#  de_DE ISO-8859-1
#  de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15
#
#  The locale-gen command will generate all the locales,
#  placing them in /usr/lib/locale.
#
#  A list of supported locales is included in this file.
#  Uncomment the ones you need.
#
#aa_DJ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#aa_DJ    ISO-8859-1
#aa_ER    UTF-8
#aa_ER@saaho    UTF-8
#aa_ET    UTF-8
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#af_ZA    ISO-8859-1
#am_ET    UTF-8
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#an_ES    ISO-8859-15
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#ar_AE    ISO-8859-6
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#ar_BH    ISO-8859-6
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#ar_DZ    ISO-8859-6
#ar_EG.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_EG    ISO-8859-6
#ar_IN    UTF-8
#ar_IQ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_IQ    ISO-8859-6
#ar_JO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_JO    ISO-8859-6
#ar_KW.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_KW    ISO-8859-6
#ar_LB.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_LB    ISO-8859-6
#ar_LY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_LY    ISO-8859-6
#ar_MA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_MA    ISO-8859-6
#ar_OM.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_OM    ISO-8859-6
#ar_QA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_QA    ISO-8859-6
#ar_SA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_SA    ISO-8859-6
#ar_SD.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_SD    ISO-8859-6
#ar_SY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_SY    ISO-8859-6
#ar_TN.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_TN    ISO-8859-6
#ar_YE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ar_YE    ISO-8859-6
#as_IN.UTF-8    UTF-8
#az_AZ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#be_BY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#be_BY    CP1251
#be_BY@latin    UTF-8
#bg_BG.UTF-8    UTF-8
bg_BG    CP1251
#bn_BD    UTF-8
#bn_IN    UTF-8
#br_FR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#br_FR    ISO-8859-1
#br_FR@euro    ISO-8859-15
#bs_BA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#bs_BA    ISO-8859-2
#byn_ER    UTF-8
#ca_AD.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ca_AD    ISO-8859-15
#ca_ES.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ca_ES    ISO-8859-1
#ca_ES@euro    ISO-8859-15
#ca_FR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ca_FT    ISO-8859-15
#ca_IT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ca_IT    ISO-8859-15
#cs_CZ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#cs_CZ    ISO-8859-2
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#cy_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
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#da_DK.UTF-8    UTF-8
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#de_AT    ISO-8859-1
#de_AT@euro    ISO-8859-15
#de_BE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#de_BE    ISO-8859-1
#de_BE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#de_CH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#de_CH    ISO-8859-1
#de_DE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#de_DE    ISO-8859-1
#de_DE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#de_LU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#de_LU    ISO-8859-1
#de_LU@euro    ISO-8859-15
#dz_BT    UTF-8
#el_CY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#el_CY    ISO-8859-7
#el_GR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#el_GR    ISO-8859-7
#en_AU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_AU    ISO-8859-1
#en_BW.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_BW    ISO-8859-1
#en_CA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_CA    ISO-8859-1
#en_DK.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_DK    ISO-8859-1
#en_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_GB    ISO-8859-1
#en_HK.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_HK    ISO-8859-1
#en_IE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_IE    ISO-8859-1
#en_IE@euro    ISO-8859-15
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#en_NZ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_NZ    ISO-8859-1
#en_PH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_PH    ISO-8859-1
#en_SG.UTF-8    UTF-8
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#en_ZA    ISO-8859-1
#en_ZW.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_ZW    ISO-8859-1
#es_AR.UTF-8    UTF-8
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#es_CL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_CL    ISO-8859-1
#es_CO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_CO    ISO-8859-1
#es_CR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_CR    ISO-8859-1
#es_DO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_DO    ISO-8859-1
#es_EC.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_EC    ISO-8859-1
#es_ES.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_ES    ISO-8859-1
#es_ES@euro    ISO-8859-15
#es_GT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_GT    ISO-8859-1
#es_HN.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_HN    ISO-8859-1
#es_MX.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_MX    ISO-8859-1
#es_NI.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_NI    ISO-8859-1
#es_PA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_PA    ISO-8859-1
#es_PE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_PE    ISO-8859-1
#es_PR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_PR    ISO-8859-1
#es_PY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_PY    ISO-8859-1
#es_SV.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_SV    ISO-8859-1
#es_US.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_US    ISO-8859-1
#es_UY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_UY    ISO-8859-1
#es_VE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#es_VE    ISO-8859-1
#et_EE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#et_EE    ISO-8859-1
#et_EE.ISO-8859-15    ISO-8859-15
#eu_ES.UTF-8    UTF-8
#eu_ES    ISO-8859-1
#eu_ES@euro    ISO-8859-15
#fa_IR    UTF-8
#fi_FI.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fi_FI    ISO-8859-1
#fi_FI@euro    ISO-8859-15
#fo_FO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fo_FO    ISO-8859-1
#fr_BE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fr_BE    ISO-8859-1
#fr_BE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#fr_CA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fr_CA    ISO-8859-1
#fr_CH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fr_CH    ISO-8859-1
#fr_FR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fr_FR    ISO-8859-1
#fr_FR@euro    ISO-8859-15
#fr_LU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#fr_LU    ISO-8859-1
#fr_LU@euro    ISO-8859-15
#fy_NL    UTF-8
#ga_IE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ga_IE    ISO-8859-1
#ga_IE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#gd_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
#gd_GB    ISO-8859-15
#gez_ER    UTF-8
#gez_ER@abegede    UTF-8
#gez_ET    UTF-8
#gez_ET@abegede    UTF-8
#gl_ES.UTF-8    UTF-8
#gl_ES    ISO-8859-1
#gl_ES@euro    ISO-8859-15
#gu_IN    UTF-8
#gv_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
#gv_GB    ISO-8859-1
#he_IL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#he_IL    ISO-8859-8
#hi_IN    UTF-8
#hr_HR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#hr_HR    ISO-8859-2
#hsb_DE    ISO-8859-2
#hsb_DE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#hu_HU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#hu_HU    ISO-8859-2
#hy_AM    UTF-8
#hy_AM.ARMSCII-8    ARMSCII-8
#id_ID.UTF-8    UTF-8
#id_ID    ISO-8859-1
#is_IS.UTF-8    UTF-8
#is_IS    ISO-8859-1
#it_CH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#it_CH    ISO-8859-1
#it_IT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#it_IT    ISO-8859-1
#it_IT@euro    ISO-8859-15
#iw_IL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#iw_IL    ISO-8859-8
#ja_JP.EUC-JP    EUC-JP
#ja_JP.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ka_GE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ka_GE    GEORGIAN-PS
#kk_KZ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#kk_KZ    PT154
#kl_GL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#kl_GL    ISO-8859-1
#km_KH    UTF-8
#kn_IN    UTF-8
#ko_KR.EUC-KR    EUC-KR
#ko_KR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ku_TR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ku_TR    ISO-8859-9
#kw_GB.UTF-8    UTF-8
#kw_GB    ISO-8859-1
#ky_KG    UTF-8
#lg_UG.UTF-8    UTF-8
#lg_UG    ISO-8859-10
#lo_LA    UTF-8
#lt_LT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#lt_LT    ISO-8859-13
#lv_LV.UTF-8    UTF-8
#lv_LV    ISO-8859-13
#mg_MG.UTF-8    UTF-8
#mg_MG    ISO-8859-15
#mi_NZ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#mi_NZ    ISO-8859-13
#mk_MK.UTF-8    UTF-8
#mk_MK    ISO-8859-5
#ml_IN    UTF-8
#mn_MN    UTF-8
#mr_IN    UTF-8
#ms_MY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ms_MY    ISO-8859-1
#mt_MT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#mt_MT    ISO-8859-3
#nb_NO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#nb_NO    ISO-8859-1
#ne_NP    UTF-8
#nl_BE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#nl_BE    ISO-8859-1
#nl_BE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#nl_NL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#nl_NL    ISO-8859-1
#nl_NL@euro    ISO-8859-15
#nn_NO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#nn_NO    ISO-8859-1
#nr_ZA    UTF-8
#nso_ZA    UTF-8
#oc_FR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#oc_FR    ISO-8859-1
#om_ET    UTF-8
#om_KE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#om_KE    ISO-8859-1
#or_IN    UTF-8
#pa_IN    UTF-8
#pa_PK    UTF-8
#pl_PL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#pl_PL    ISO-8859-2
#pt_BR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#pt_BR    ISO-8859-1
#pt_PT.UTF-8    UTF-8
#pt_PT    ISO-8859-1
#pt_PT@euro    ISO-8859-15
#ro_RO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ro_RO    ISO-8859-2
#ru_RU.KOI8-R    KOI8-R
#ru_RU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ru_RU    ISO-8859-5
#ru_UA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#ru_UA    KOI8-U
#rw_RW    UTF-8
#se_NO    UTF-8
#si_LK    UTF-8
#sid_ET    UTF-8
#sk_SK.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sk_SK    ISO-8859-2
#sl_SI.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sl_SI    ISO-8859-2
#so_DJ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#so_DJ    ISO-8859-1
#so_ET    UTF-8
#so_KE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#so_KE    ISO-8859-1
#so_SO.UTF-8    UTF-8
#so_SO    ISO-8859-1
#sq_AL.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sq_AL    ISO-8859-1
#sr_CS.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sr_CS    ISO-8859-5
#sr_ME    UTF-8
#ss_ZA    UTF-8
#st_ZA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#st_ZA    ISO-8859-1
#sv_FI.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sv_FI    ISO-8859-1
#sv_FI@euro    ISO-8859-15
#sv_SE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#sv_SE    ISO-8859-1
#ta_IN    UTF-8
#te_IN    UTF-8
#tg_TJ.UTF-8    UTF-8
#tg_TJ    KOI8-T
#th_TH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#th_TH    TIS-620
#ti_ER    UTF-8
#ti_ET    UTF-8
#tig_ER    UTF-8
#tl_PH.UTF-8    UTF-8
#tl_PH    ISO-8859-1
#tn_ZA    UTF-8
#tr_CY.UTF-8    UTF-8
#tr_CY    ISO-8859-9
#tr_TR.UTF-8    UTF-8
#tr_TR    ISO-8859-9
#ts_ZA    UTF-8
#tt_RU.UTF-8    UTF-8
#uk_UA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#uk_UA    KOI8-U
#ur_PK    UTF-8
#uz_UZ    ISO-8859-1
#uz_UZ@cyrillic    UTF-8
#ve_ZA    UTF-8
#vi_VN.TCVN    TCVN5712-1
#vi_VN    UTF-8
#wa_BE    ISO-8859-1
#wa_BE@euro    ISO-8859-15
#wa_BE.UTF-8    UTF-8
#xh_ZA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#xh_ZA    ISO-8859-1
#yi_US.UTF-8    UTF-8
#yi_US    CP1255
#zh_CN.GB18030    GB18030
#zh_CN.GBK    GBK
#zh_CN.UTF-8    UTF-8
#zh_CN    GB2312
#zh_HK.UTF-8    UTF-8
#zh_HK    BIG5-HKSCS
#zh_SG.UTF-8    UTF-8
#zh_SG.GBK    GBK
#zh_SG    GB2312
#zh_TW.EUC-TW    EUC-TW
#zh_TW.UTF-8    UTF-8
#zh_TW    BIG5
#zu_ZA.UTF-8    UTF-8
#zu_ZA    ISO-8859-1

Here is my locale.gen
However if I use more than one locale I must apply it everytime I reboot and also if my locale isn't set to bg_BG.CP1251 I can't type cyrillic into wine applications...
About the browser thing... well I think that can happen as opera has builtin windows encodings.

foxbunny · 2007-10-04 11:38:16

Okay. I see.

Now, try this. In your locale.gen uncomment the following lines:

#bg_BG.UTF-8    UTF-8
#en_US.UTF-8    UTF-8

The one that's already uncommented should remain uncommented. And generate the locales:

locale-gen

Now you should have the following locales: en_US.UTF8, bg_BG.UTF8, and bg_BG (cp1251).

In your rc.conf specify the locale as en_US.UTF8.

LOCALE="en_US.utf8"

I think you'd need to reboot here.

The wine apps should behave as usual. At least they do on my box.

EDIT:
I might be wrong but isn't there a setting in wine config that says which locale shoud the wine system use? Also, 2k and XP should be Unicode-capable unlike 98.

EDIT2:
To temporarily switch locale for wine you can start your app like so:

LANG=bg_BG wine myprog

Last edited by foxbunny (2007-10-04 11:44:36)

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#1 2007-10-01 15:16:57

How to return gnome to english

#2 2007-10-01 15:44:07

Re: How to return gnome to english

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Re: How to return gnome to english

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Re: How to return gnome to english

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Re: How to return gnome to english

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Re: How to return gnome to english

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