AMD/ATI fglrx 8.42.3 Experiences

signor_rossi · 2007-10-28 08:20:08

As soon as the open source drivers get better powerplay support I will switch to them, for the time being only fglx offers that.
Anyway, some experiences: Didn't have any corruption in the right corner so far ( I guess XAANoOffscreenPixmaps setting did the trick, DRI option isn't used according to Xorg.log) and xv also works (the funny thing is I had the video overlay disabled all the time and didn't notice since X11 video output had relative good performance, enabled and tested xv and it works good).
I also tried compiz-fusion and it also tells me that "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" isn't supported. When can we expect this (out of curiosity, I am not trying to ush anyone) to get fixed in the testing repository (I mean is it worked on on or scheduled)?
Ah, and I did an "pacman -Suy" with the testing repository enabled.

Thanks, signor_rossi.

raven3x7 · 2007-10-28 09:05:20

signor_rossi wrote:

As soon as the open source drivers get better powerplay support I will switch to them, for the time being only fglx offers that.
Anyway, some experiences: Didn't have any corruption in the right corner so far ( I guess XAANoOffscreenPixmaps setting did the trick, DRI option isn't used according to Xorg.log) and xv also works (the funny thing is I had the video overlay disabled all the time and didn't notice since X11 video output had relative good performance, enabled and tested xv and it works good).
I also tried compiz-fusion and it also tells me that "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" isn't supported. When can we expect this (out of curiosity, I am not trying to ush anyone) to get fixed in the testing repository (I mean is it worked on on or scheduled)?
Ah, and I did an "pacman -Suy" with the testing repository enabled.
Thanks, signor_rossi.

Yeah i enabled the options suggested earlier and the corruption is gone for me too. As for AIGLX http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … ion_on_ATI . Hope that helps

signor_rossi · 2007-10-28 09:38:48

raven3x7 wrote:

signor_rossi wrote:
As soon as the open source drivers get better powerplay support I will switch to them, for the time being only fglx offers that.
Anyway, some experiences: Didn't have any corruption in the right corner so far ( I guess XAANoOffscreenPixmaps setting did the trick, DRI option isn't used according to Xorg.log) and xv also works (the funny thing is I had the video overlay disabled all the time and didn't notice since X11 video output had relative good performance, enabled and tested xv and it works good).
I also tried compiz-fusion and it also tells me that "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" isn't supported. When can we expect this (out of curiosity, I am not trying to ush anyone) to get fixed in the testing repository (I mean is it worked on on or scheduled)?
Ah, and I did an "pacman -Suy" with the testing repository enabled.
Thanks, signor_rossi.
Yeah i enabled the options suggested earlier and the corruption is gone for me too. As for AIGLX http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … ion_on_ATI . Hope that helps

Already tried what was suggested on the wiki with not much success, I didn't try very hard though. Do I understand things right when I assume that the first suggestion is just a hack? I did assume that when I was asking when (or at all) this would be addressed from the distribution side. As for the second solution, if you have such a card you are just out of luck performance wise and the arch packagers can't do much for you in that case, am I right?

Greetings, signor_rossi.

bboozzoo · 2007-10-28 10:55:51

signor_rossi wrote:

As soon as the open source drivers get better powerplay support I will switch to them, for the time being only fglx offers that.
Anyway, some experiences: Didn't have any corruption in the right corner so far ( I guess XAANoOffscreenPixmaps setting did the trick, DRI option isn't used according to Xorg.log) and xv also works (the funny thing is I had the video overlay disabled all the time and didn't notice since X11 video output had relative good performance, enabled and tested xv and it works good).
I also tried compiz-fusion and it also tells me that "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" isn't supported. When can we expect this (out of curiosity, I am not trying to ush anyone) to get fixed in the testing repository (I mean is it worked on on or scheduled)?
Ah, and I did an "pacman -Suy" with the testing repository enabled.
Thanks, signor_rossi.

you mean radeonhd drivers?

Cerebral · 2007-10-28 12:29:40

signor_rossi wrote:

I did assume that when I was asking when (or at all) this would be addressed from the distribution side.

There's not much we can do "distribution side" afaik - the meat of fglrx is closed source, so I can't patch it. If compiz-fusion can be changed to accept fglrx, I don't know - but many people from distributions other than Arch are having this same problem.

zodmaner · 2007-10-28 15:56:20

Well, I've finally manage to try out the new driver and here's my experiences with it so far.

The Goods:
- Compiz Fusion works!
- Performance is way better than open source driver (as to be expected). On radeon driver I got 1559-1560 FPS from glxgears, with 8.42.3 the frame rate jump to around 5500-6000 FPS.

The Bads:
- XV output corruptions, even with Compiz turn off.
- amdcccle didn't start.
- Scrolling pages in Firefox is a little slower than when I used open source driver.

I tested this driver on Arch 64 bit (x86_64) box with:
- ATi Radeon X700
- xorg-server 1.2.0-5
- Latest Compiz-Fusion git from nesl's repo
- Kernel 2.6.23.1-6

Overall not bad, but not outstanding either. The problem with XV output is a big deal breaker for me because I spend most of my free time watching movies. Hopes that the next version will fixes this otherwise I might revert back to good old radeon.

Last edited by zodmaner (2007-10-28 16:03:34)

shining · 2007-10-28 16:10:19

Too bad Arch doesn't have glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
Seriously, I remember a few years ago, I upgraded fglrx, and I lost 1000 fps in glxgears, but games were noticeably smoother, Enemy Territory got 20 fps more or something.
So it's not bullshit, glxgears is really NOT a benchmark, and it doesn't prove in any way that the performance is better or worse for real applications.

I just tried google and found a page that looks interesting : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgea … _Benchmark

Sigi · 2007-10-28 16:10:40

zodmaner wrote:

The Bads:
- XV output corruptions, even with Compiz turn off.

Using mplayer instead of xine "fixed" that one for me.

miggols99 · 2007-10-28 17:51:19

Woot! I got compiz fusion working! For some reason there was another AIGLX "off" in my xorg.conf. I removed it and now I have a nice fast Compiz Fusion

MrWeatherbee · 2007-10-28 17:51:32

shining wrote:

Too bad Arch doesn't have glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
Seriously, I remember a few years ago, I upgraded fglrx, and I lost 1000 fps in glxgears, but games were noticeably smoother, Enemy Territory got 20 fps more or something.
So it's not bullshit, glxgears is really NOT a benchmark, and it doesn't prove in any way that the performance is better or worse for real applications.
I just tried google and found a page that looks interesting : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgea … _Benchmark

[tongue-ever-so-slightly-in-cheek]

I prefer this attitude myself regarding 'glxgears':

http://www.free3d.org/faq

PS:
And if you're really looking for an interesting page, how about this one ... pretty cool:

http://www.haltadefinizione.com/en/

zodmaner · 2007-10-28 18:00:55

shining & MrWeatherbee: Thanks for your guys comments & links about glxgears. I find them very interesting.

Sigi: Thank you for your advise, but I am using MPlayer. Maybe there's something wrong with my xorg.conf setting?

miggols99: Congrats mate!

Last edited by zodmaner (2007-10-28 18:02:18)

LinuxPatsku · 2007-10-28 19:03:13

Anyone knows how long takes, before new fglrx (8.41 or 8.42) comes to extra?

signor_rossi · 2007-10-28 19:24:25

zodmaner wrote:

shining & MrWeatherbee: Thanks for your guys comments & links about glxgears. I find them very interesting.
Sigi: Thank you for your advise, but I am using MPlayer. Maybe there's something wrong with my xorg.conf setting?
miggols99: Congrats mate!

You can always use another video output driver.

mplayer -vo help

shows you what is available, x11 (also called XImage/Shm by mplayer) should be the first to try when xv is not available and your box certainly has enough power, on my laptop I prefer xv because it uses less resources and I can run it at a lower frequency with it.

mplayer -vo x11 fileToPlay

then uses x11 video output. In a gui mediaplayer just go to the settings dialog to set x11 as video output driver to use. I use smplayer.

Bye, signor_rossi.

zodmaner · 2007-10-28 19:34:53

Thanks signor_rossi, I'll give x11 a shot and see how it goes.

Cerebral · 2007-10-28 20:48:32

LinuxPatsku wrote:

Anyone knows how long takes, before new fglrx (8.41 or 8.42) comes to extra?

8.41 won't ever go to extra.
8.42 will go to extra only if xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra.

AMD/ATI recommend that neither is used as a distribution's "official" version of fglrx -- basically, use-at-your-own-risk.

zodmaner · 2007-10-28 21:03:20

Cerebral wrote:

8.42 will go to extra only if xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra.

On that question, when will xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra? Should I wait for it to goes into extra or just download it from testing now?

Cerebral · 2007-10-28 21:34:17

zodmaner wrote:

Cerebral wrote:
8.42 will go to extra only if xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra.
On that question, when will xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra? Should I wait for it to goes into extra or just download it from testing now?

That, I don't know - it's being handled by another dev and I'm not sure what (if anything) is holding it up.

bboozzoo · 2007-10-28 21:47:38

Cerebral wrote:

LinuxPatsku wrote:
Anyone knows how long takes, before new fglrx (8.41 or 8.42) comes to extra?
8.41 won't ever go to extra.
8.42 will go to extra only if xorg-server 1.4 goes to extra.
AMD/ATI recommend that neither is used as a distribution's "official" version of fglrx -- basically, use-at-your-own-risk.

Like it would have ever been any different than that It looks really bad if you event can't write a proper driver for hardware you make

Last edited by bboozzoo (2007-10-29 06:16:45)

zodmaner · 2007-10-28 22:02:32

Well, at least now that AIGLX, which is one of the most requested feature, is finally included. They can (hopefully) put all their efforts into bug fixing & optimization.

Still, knowing ATi, that might take sometime to happen. But hey, look at the bright side. Most people never thought that we'll really get AIGLX support before next year, and yet here it is! So, who knows? Anything can happen.

Last edited by zodmaner (2007-10-28 22:03:15)

Basic-Master · 2007-10-30 16:11:09

I've been using the 8.42 drivers for a while now and most stuff appears to be working very nicely. I managed to get copiz-fusion running smoothly, although scrolling looks a little slow in Epiphany. VLC, totem and mplayer work for me when using the X11 video output, when I try to use OpenGL output under CF it's kind of lagging though. I can also confirm the resume issue (managed to suspend but didn't turn on the display/black screen when resuming). OpenGL games do work (tried Nexuiz, Warsow and CS [wine]) but it seemed to cause some graphic problems in CS, the "control" window of CS (the green one in the game) started flickering under CF (well, this might have something to do with CF though as it works properly with Metacity). Other than that it's working flawlessly for me (using a Mobility Radeon 9600 on a 1280x800 display), thanks for the updated package!

c0r0nel · 2007-11-01 15:17:29

Hi, i have a ATI Xpress 200M and fglrx 8.42.3 with xserver 1.4.
All 2D stuff works well, but 3d not. When i run some program that requiers 3D support, hangs the X server. For example, Urbanterror, starts ok, when i go to start some map then hangs the X server.

Besides compiz-fusion does not work neider, its says:

No GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap with direct rendering context
 ... nor with indirect rendering, this isn't going to work!

I activate all the flags that was mentioned here, but nothing solve my problem, the only thing solve was the corruptions in the rigth corner but nothing else.
my fglrxinfo seems to be ok:

fglrxinfo 
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release

With the old driver and old xserver, i had 3d support working fine (with poor performance, but working)
Some one can help to put 3d to work again? any clue?

thanks

signor_rossi · 2007-11-01 19:54:07

O.K., this is mostly a shot in the dark, but I would fiddle around anyway...
UMA and SIDEPORT settings in the BIOS (maybe ATI scrwed up again in the newest driver:)):
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubl … IDEPORT.29

Bye, signor_rossi

Blind · 2007-11-01 21:54:59

Anyone here had hard crashes with Mobility Radeon 9600, xorg-server 1.4 and the new open-source and proprietary drivers? I think that xorg-server 1.4 causes this...
Symptoms:
- hard drive LED starts to light up continuously
- mouse still movable for a few seconds, but eventually everything freezes
- only power cycling helps now
A reverted system to xorg-server 1.2 and the old ATI proprietary drivers remedies this.
Blind

wojak · 2007-11-02 09:13:20

Hi,
I have radeon HD2600Pro AGP and I have this errors :
...
(EE) fglrx(0): Failed to enable interrupts.
...
[atiddx] ASYNCIO init succeed!
...

I have kernel26-2.6.23.1-6.
Can you help me?

stjepan · 2007-11-04 18:30:07

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