Arch Linux Logo Contest: Discussion of logo concepts

cerise · 2007-11-05 16:28:42

PJ wrote:

No offense, but to me it seems like you toke a color near the highlight of the current tango version and used that as a base color for your design. It fits the design very well but IMO it isn't the same color compared to the current tango styled arch logo.

I took the hue and saturation, then fixed the presentation (value) for white, grey, black, and textured backgrounds.
If you do a test on the current logo, you would actually see the blue-hued-colour palette.
I do multiple swatch tests with a gamma-corrected colour engine in order to find the visual hue present of any design I work with.

foxbunny · 2007-11-05 16:38:36

I won't comment this, but:

One in the middle is your blue, cerise. I worked within the same screenshot in order to avoid distorting the colors. The one on the left was made to match the color of the website's blue bar.

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cerise · 2007-11-05 16:41:29

foxbunny wrote:

I won't comment this, but:

I'm not sure where you got that colour, but I'm ASSUMING you took it from somewhere OTHER than the current logo, which I have specified three times now. Please read what I have to say about my design before posting things that obviously aren't related.

n.b. please check your hue values before attempting to compare things.

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foxbunny · 2007-11-05 16:51:59

I took a screenshot of your submission, actually, and worked on the same screenshot to produce the image above. So any shifts apply to the entire image, not just your logo. As a side note, I prefer checking the Lab values, not the HSV values, but this was not that kind of test.

I'm just pointing out the slight discrepancy between the website design and your logo, for which this test should suffice.

Anyway, I don't think you should get all worked up about this. The website will probably be changed to reflect the new design anyway, so there is absolutely no point in arguing about whether the new logo matches any of the three 'Arch colors' or not.

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foxbunny · 2007-11-05 16:56:44

@dunc

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 66#p296166

Aw, man... /me drools

PJ · 2007-11-05 17:03:05

@dunc
Is the url for the slim theme correct? I was going to download it to get a better picture of it (the preview is to small for me to see details) but I got the following message:

Not Found
The requested URL /slim-arch-simple.tar.bz was not found on this server.

cerise · 2007-11-05 17:03:38

foxbunny wrote:

I took a screenshot of your submission, actually, and worked on the same screenshot to produce the image above. So any shifts apply to the entire image, not just your logo. As a side note, I prefer checking the Lab values, not the HSV values, but this was not that kind of test.
I'm just pointing out the slight discrepancy between the website design and your logo, for which this test should suffice.
Anyway, I don't think you should get all worked up about this. The website will probably be changed to reflect the new design anyway, so there is absolutely no point in arguing about whether the new logo matches any of the three 'Arch colors' or not.

Again, I point one last time to my actual statements. I went off the logo. Please read before you challenge what I say.
lab colours are non-linear and have uniformity problems in perception, which is why they aren't used for most medium and large scale designs. If you want to compare across physical devices, then you need to use rgb, cmyk, or hsv since lab is only for printed visual perceptions.

Anyway, I'm not worked up, but I will correct you when you are not accurate.

dunc · 2007-11-05 17:05:21

I think it's important to remember that this is a competition for the logo. Of course, in the "real world", a logo wouldn't be designed without a complete corporate identity surrounding it, but this is just a community competition. If the devs choose a design that doesn't have a great deal of additional artwork attached, it can always be worked up later, perhaps with the assistance of some of the defeated entrants.

Just my 2 coins of indeterminate currency.

And nothing at all to do with the fact I haven't done much additional artwork myself, honest.

dolby · 2007-11-05 17:13:14

well put dunc. seems like my comment has started a little war. if the devs pick a logo that doesnt match the website theyre the ones who are gonna implement it anyway so the additional work will burden their soulders. i just wanted point exactly that.
& please stop the arguing

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foxbunny · 2007-11-05 17:14:41

cerise wrote:

I went off the logo.

I didn't say you didn't.

(SNIPPED THE COMMENTS to prevent further argument)

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foxbunny · 2007-11-05 17:27:21

dolby wrote:

theyre the ones who are gonna implement it anyway so the additional work will burden their soulders.

Not necessarily. The artists who contributed the logos can (I hope) also work with devs to create a new template for the website(s).

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Misfit138 · 2007-11-06 00:28:50

Wow, the new submissions are all beautiful.
Excellent work, everyone!!

foxbunny · 2007-11-06 02:21:53

Yeah, +1

foxbunny · 2007-11-06 04:01:52

@mOLOk

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 81#p296381

First the devs, now TUs... what has this world come to! Hahahah! j/k

That's actually nice, man. You should try different arrow directions and orientations so see how they work. I'm sure there are many nice solutions with that design.

freigeist · 2007-11-06 07:33:07

Misfit138 wrote:

Wow, the new submissions are all beautiful.
Excellent work, everyone!!

Indeed...this will be really a tough choice for the devs...

TheBodziO · 2007-11-06 08:57:24

foxbunny wrote:

I'll let the man speak for himself.

Now... uhmmm...
waaaazzzuuupp!!!

— just to show that I'm still alive

seriously though... I'm in a bad case of "do it on yesterday" for a time so I'm not too "verbose" recently

Hi Boss! No, I'm not posting on forum... What gives you the idea?

foxbunny · 2007-11-06 09:16:43

lmao, hey, you're alive. Nice to hear that. Now, GET BACK TO WORK!

@labelsix

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 10#p296410

Those are beautiful, man! Just one thing. (Just a suggestion...) People like me usually keep their panels right at the bottom of the screen, so you might want to move the logos and logotypes up a bit.

ekerazha · 2007-11-06 17:03:27

foxbunny wrote:

@ekerazha
If you cut a let on a chair a bit shorter, if only by an inch, the chair becomes unstable. It is same with images, especially concrete images of concrete things like an arch. If you cut that short, you *will* destabilize it. Well that's one of the first things you learn when you take drawing classes. (Not saying it is necessarily true, though)

Clearly I don't agree with you at all... this change *doesn't* destabilize anything and the logo could host the logotype into a nice position. However the "design" is often subjective, so "de gustibus non est disputandum"

As for the logo/logotype integration, I think the original concept by TheBodziO is well ballanced in that area. The logo sits tight above the logotype, and I personally don't see anything wrong with that... But hey, I've talked too much already. I'll let the man speak for himself.

The logotype would be undersized imo and this would unbalance the whole design, however "de gustibus non est disputandum"

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freigeist · 2007-11-06 17:29:36

yiyus wrote:

It is a work a progress, I wanted to hear your comments because if there is no interest I don't have much time...

I like your idea, nice combination of oldschool ascii art land modern, pale colors...I'm not sure about this becoming the main logo, because I think it won't work well in smaller sizes, but I see a lot of potential in wallpapers and additional art...maybe an shorted version (al) would work in smaller sizes?

foxbunny · 2007-11-06 17:46:09

ekerazha wrote:

"de gustibus non est disputandum"

Agreed.

And now for 'The Archer'

>>> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 53#p296553

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freigeist · 2007-11-06 17:55:10

foxbunny wrote:

ekerazha wrote:
"de gustibus non est disputandum"
Agreed.
And now for 'The Archer'
>>> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 53#p296553

Well done! By the way...the tree in the background may be be a good, zen-like logo for arch...

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foxbunny · 2007-11-06 18:04:21

Hm, I can't mentally connect the tree and Arch. I'll think about it.

OTOH, freigeist, you can grab the SVG and try something out. Mind you, it's under CC Attribution Share-alike 2.5 (because of the original photo I based the wallpaper on).

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freigeist · 2007-11-06 18:36:53

foxbunny wrote:

Hm, I can't mentally connect the tree and Arch. I'll think about it.
OTOH, freigeist, you can grab the SVG and try something out. Mind you, it's under CC Attribution Share-alike 2.5 (because of the original photo I based the wallpaper on).

I mentally link them because of:
- Simplicity (Zen like)
- Without attitude
- Evolving
- Wood is the material an archer made his bow and arrows from

I thought about a little bit more abstract version of something like this

Unfortunately I run out of time, therefore I can not follow this idea until end of submission time

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foxbunny · 2007-11-06 19:06:35

It's okay, but I'm pretty happy with the Alpha Sun, so I won't be able to work on this as a logo. OTOH, I will certainly create some wallpapers, etc. Although I've had a LOT of help from ibendiben in fixing it for SP2 (yet to be submitted).

@ibendiben

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 12#p296612

Ben, the original post with the wallpaper now includes the dark version with a penguin. If you don't like the penguin, you can grab the sources here:

http://eyedeal.team88.org/storage/the_archer2.svg

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 12#p296612

I don't know why I get all sorts of illusions about stuff falling down, but your logo looks as if it's gonna tumble forward... It bows forward at best, imho. Maybe it could be seen as taking away a bit of that Archer pride.

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yiyus · 2007-11-06 21:39:35

freigeist wrote:

I like your idea, nice combination of oldschool ascii art land modern, pale colors...I'm not sure about this becoming the main logo, because I think it won't work well in smaller sizes, but I see a lot of potential in wallpapers and additional art...maybe an shorted version (al) would work in smaller sizes?

It is curious, because I thought one of the strong points of this sort of logo was that, since it is based in pixel art, it can be done really small. For example, this is a 128x128 icon I did in less than 10 minutes:

Anyway, I don't think I'll have time to do a real submission, thanks for your comments.

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