BSD-Linux

lumiwa · 2007-11-11 00:40:39

It is a little old but anyway...
My opinion is that Theo was wright in this case...

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article& … 0913014315
http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/Atheros_D … velopments
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118963284332223&w=2

Husio · 2007-11-11 09:30:18

I don't like him (Theo), he's angry becouse his system isn't as popular as Linux. In his opinion OpenBSD is best of the best and the only secure... well it isn't.

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shining · 2007-11-11 10:03:40

Husio wrote:

I don't like him (Theo), he's angry becouse his system isn't as popular as Linux. In his opinion OpenBSD is best of the best and the only secure... well it isn't.

Do you know what Linus think of Linux?

Husio · 2007-11-11 10:08:24

shining wrote:

Husio wrote:
I don't like him (Theo), he's angry becouse his system isn't as popular as Linux. In his opinion OpenBSD is best of the best and the only secure... well it isn't.
Do you know what Linus think of Linux?

I didn't say what I think about Linus.

iphitus · 2007-11-11 10:35:41

Husio wrote:

I don't like him (Theo), he's angry becouse his system isn't as popular as Linux. In his opinion OpenBSD is best of the best and the only secure... well it isn't.

lol. got flames?

don't feed the trolls :)

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wuischke · 2007-11-11 11:26:30

I like OpenBSD a lot, especially the quality of code and documentation. Arch is still my primary desktop, though.

Linux biggest advantage are the big firms pushing Linux and (as weird as it sounds) comprehensive driver support. Things like the tickless kernel feature are very impressive as well.

I wish QNX had more drivers...or I had the time to have a closer look at HelenOS...

Husio · 2007-11-11 12:02:12

wuischke wrote:

I wish QNX had more drivers...or I had the time to have a closer look at HelenOS...

Isn't QNX for commertial use only now?

wuischke · 2007-11-11 17:33:18

No, QNX is now ... let's call it shared source and free for non-commercial usage. This means you either get a free license key (you have to register) or you can build your own system.¹

If you want to use it commercially, you still have to get a license, similar to QT.

¹ http://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/vie … uestInQEMU -> Method 2.

phrakture · 2007-11-12 20:39:19

All OSes tremble before the might of VMS. /me chuckles

Misfit138 · 2007-11-13 02:29:40

BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.

iphitus · 2007-11-13 09:57:20

Misfit138 wrote:

BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.

It's very similar to Arch in some ways, i find myself quite at home on FreeBSD/OpenBSD. FreeBSD 7 will hit my desktop very quickly after release.

freigeist · 2007-11-13 10:11:04

iphitus wrote:

Misfit138 wrote:
BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.
It's very similar to Arch in some ways, i find myself quite at home on FreeBSD/OpenBSD. FreeBSD 7 will hit my desktop very quickly after release.

I tested the FreeBSD 7 Beta last weekend, easy setup, everything is working quickly, configuration almost as easy as on arch. Even the package management is nice. Once the gnome desktop is started you won't see and feel any difference (even flash is working). The only difficult thing was that I had to change the default shell from csh to bash

I hadn't expected that FreeBSD is that smooth for a novice, but their handbook is really nice. Even reiserfs partitions can be mounted (read-only).

And I like their logo much...

lumiwa · 2007-11-13 12:22:10

Misfit138 wrote:

BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.

How old is the Arch Linux? Slackware?
Arch Linux it seems very similar to FreeBSD not vice versa!!

dhave · 2007-11-13 12:47:08

lumiwa wrote:

Misfit138 wrote:
BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.
How old is the Arch Linux? Slackware?
Arch Linux it seems very similar to FreeBSD not vice versa!!

Right.

freigeist · 2007-11-13 13:04:15

lumiwa wrote:

Misfit138 wrote:
BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.
How old is the Arch Linux? Slackware?
Arch Linux it seems very similar to FreeBSD not vice versa!!

As far as I know Slackware and FreeBSD have the same age (1993)

mucknert · 2007-11-13 13:10:04

@freigeist:
But before Slackware and FreeBSD were 386BSD and 4.4BSD-lite. FreeBSD comes directly from them whereas Slack only borrowed some elements that were native to BSD by that time.

Misfit138 · 2007-11-13 16:22:47

BSD is similar to Arch and Slack, at least for me, because I tried Arch and Slack first.
I guess I should have tried BSD first, but it didn't work out that way.

oli · 2007-11-14 16:33:42

freigeist wrote:

lumiwa wrote:
Misfit138 wrote:
BSD seems very cool. It seems very similar to Slackware and Arch in some ways.
How old is the Arch Linux? Slackware?
Arch Linux it seems very similar to FreeBSD not vice versa!!
As far as I know Slackware and FreeBSD have the same age (1993)

BSD has got 30 years of history, some original developers are developing for FreeBSD even today. At first BSD was a patchset to original UNIX only, 1977 it was a system of its own. 386BSD was just a port to PCs, FreeBSD and NetBSD the first forks of it, because of the slow development.

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensour … rkmck.html

kensai · 2007-11-14 18:26:59

iphitus wrote:

FreeBSD 7 will hit my desktop very quickly after release.

That makes us two. Arch Linux and FreeBSD are the only good Operating Systems for me.

skottish · 2007-11-14 18:33:53

And Arch BSD... if and when.

Misfit138 · 2007-11-14 19:32:12

It will be a real challenge for me because I am not that smart...but I will give it a shot too.
What I remember of my short time with BSD was how hard it was for me to get anything done.

finferflu · 2007-11-14 23:15:58

I have installed FreeBSD yesterday. I like the very clean approach to managing packages, but I find it too slow. Today it took me half an hour only to uninstall Gnome, I think it took me less to install it...
Also, my Netgear WG111 wireless dongle doesn't work correctly. The ndis driver doesn't even recognise it, and the prism54 driver crashes it after a while. I try to unplug it or remove the module and......... *the system reboots!* (not even unmounting the volumes correctly)...
I am very confused and quite disappointed I have to say, but the excuse is that I'm a complete newbie to BSD. Too bad there are not many tutorials like you find on Linux, nothing like the Arch wiki, or even better, the Gentoo wiki. At least I couldn't find anything. I have posted my question on the BSDForums (the only forum I could find) and I'm still waiting for a reply, otherwise I'll have to go to the mailing list, which I find a bit annoying...
Anyway, my appreciation for Arch is growing, because I can see a lot of similarities between it and BSD, it's like having the best of both worlds

dolby · 2007-11-15 00:18:39

its true that *BSD lack support for many modern hardware.
as far as documentation... FreeBSD has the best official documentation an OS can have. the FreeBSD Handbook

finferflu · 2007-11-15 00:24:50

I have read the documentation (not all, just what I needed), and it's quite comprehensive, but I was talking about wikis, like help for specific devices, applications, and so on.

Hide · 2007-11-15 00:26:45

I can never get pppoe running on ANY BSD!

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