whats the zen kernel better then the stock

wavenator · 2007-12-03 23:51:36

whats the zen git kernel better than the default stock kernel

and whats the other kernels
the vanilla and all those

lilsirecho · 2007-12-04 00:02:21

Vanilla is the basic "core" install no extra packages.

All of the rest are kernels which include the latest linux OS releases and some variations.

Much can be gleaned from the Installation forums regarding the status of each of the possible variations.

Most users start with the Vanilla and upgrade to more involved installs.

The wiki has good advice on the use of vanilla install. Read a lot!!!!

Best to you...

wavenator · 2007-12-04 08:57:38

thanks man but i wanted to know
why should i compile a zen git kernel
is it better then the vanilla? if so ,what makes it better?

Last edited by wavenator (2007-12-04 08:58:16)

byte · 2007-12-04 10:10:33

It's the same for every patchset: Inform yourself about the purpose of the patches it contains and decide if you find them useful.
If not, don't bother.
Also: there is no "better", never.

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wavenator · 2007-12-04 10:23:09

i want t kernel for gaming ^^
for playing games
i just want performance

Fackamato · 2007-12-04 10:38:56

wavenator wrote:

i want t kernel for gaming ^^
for playing games
i just want performance

Then the stock Archlinux kernel should suit you fine.

wavenator · 2007-12-04 10:47:26

Fackamato wrote:

wavenator wrote:
i want t kernel for gaming ^^
for playing games
i just want performance
Then the stock Archlinux kernel should suit you fine.

just for know
who's the zen suite for

p4ddY · 2007-12-04 16:24:12

wavenator wrote:

Fackamato wrote:
wavenator wrote:
i want t kernel for gaming ^^
for playing games
i just want performance
Then the stock Archlinux kernel should suit you fine.
just for know
who's the zen suite for

For people who want to use experimental features and gamers as well. Its performance is really nice.

Last edited by p4ddY (2007-12-04 16:26:36)

Fackamato · 2007-12-04 16:53:32

Hm, I confused zen with xen, my bad

Might give zen a try the, tonight!

SiD · 2007-12-06 12:47:15

Could someone explain the "branch" thing in the zen-git PKGBUILD in short.
Waht's the difference between "master" and the default one "v2.6.24-rc4-zen1", e.g.?

buttons · 2007-12-06 12:51:09

Official thread.

All your questions answered. And then some.

Acid7711 · 2007-12-06 21:43:51

For me at least, Zen kernel and Compiz Fusion do NOT play nice together. Went back to stock and all problems solved, well.....except for that stupidly annoying bug where you can't use the gtk window decorator cuzz they go invisible. Sucks, cuzz I really liked the Zen kernel patchset, just not the CF problems and slowness that came with it.

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p4ddY · 2007-12-06 21:47:22

Acid7711 wrote:

For me at least, Zen kernel and Compiz Fusion do NOT play nice together. Went back to stock and all problems solved, well.....except for that stupidly annoying bug where you can't use the gtk window decorator cuzz they go invisible. Sucks, cuzz I really liked the Zen kernel patchset, just not the CF problems and slowness that came with it.

Do you have NVIDIA or ATI? I'm using a GeForce 4 with nvidia-96xx-zen and everything works fine.

SiD · 2007-12-06 22:52:13

I don't wanted to open an extra thread for this. I have two problems.

1)
I compiled the kernel26zen-git with the sbs modul (support for smart batterys).

Booting the PC freezes at "Loading standart ACPI modules".
Even holding the Power-Button pressed does not wokr to shutdown the laptop. I had to remove the Battery!
If I blacklist the sbs modul in rc.conf I can boot the zen kernel.

So, in the config provided with the PKGBUILD in AUR the sbs modul is deactivated.
Is the sbs-modul incompatible with the zen kernel? Any chance to get it wokring?

2)
During boot, at "Mounting Local Filesystems", I get

umount: /proc/bus/usb :not mounted

What does this mean? Do I need /proc/bus/usb mounted?

Back to topic.
Without the sbs-modul I'm not able to read the charge-level of my battery.
So for me the 'stock' or the 'rt' kernels are the "better" choises. ;-)

Last edited by SiD (2007-12-06 23:00:37)

wavenator · 2007-12-06 23:56:20

SiD wrote:

During boot, at "Mounting Local Filesystems", I get
umount: /proc/bus/usb :not mounted
What does this mean? Do I need /proc/bus/usb mounted?

i get this too
what is it?
btw it started from rc4
with rc3 i'd had no such warnning

somairotevoli · 2007-12-07 00:05:17

Too got that error.

Last edited by somairotevoli (2007-12-07 00:10:39)

Acid7711 · 2007-12-07 01:20:10

p4ddY wrote:

Acid7711 wrote:
For me at least, Zen kernel and Compiz Fusion do NOT play nice together. Went back to stock and all problems solved, well.....except for that stupidly annoying bug where you can't use the gtk window decorator cuzz they go invisible. Sucks, cuzz I really liked the Zen kernel patchset, just not the CF problems and slowness that came with it.
Do you have NVIDIA or ATI? I'm using a GeForce 4 with nvidia-96xx-zen and everything works fine.

Nvidia 8800GTS, it's not a graphics issue. The problem is that things bog way down...music will studder/stop for seconds, system will bog when gnome-terminal is opened, etc, but only when CF is running under the Zen kernel. On the system I have, things should never be bogging down.

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p4ddY · 2007-12-07 12:59:04

Acid7711 wrote:

p4ddY wrote:
Acid7711 wrote:
For me at least, Zen kernel and Compiz Fusion do NOT play nice together. Went back to stock and all problems solved, well.....except for that stupidly annoying bug where you can't use the gtk window decorator cuzz they go invisible. Sucks, cuzz I really liked the Zen kernel patchset, just not the CF problems and slowness that came with it.
Do you have NVIDIA or ATI? I'm using a GeForce 4 with nvidia-96xx-zen and everything works fine.
Nvidia 8800GTS, it's not a graphics issue. The problem is that things bog way down...music will studder/stop for seconds, system will bog when gnome-terminal is opened, etc, but only when CF is running under the Zen kernel. On the system I have, things should never be bogging down.

Then you should try the default scheduler setup
Completely Fair Scheduler Tunables -> CFS predefined setups -> [x] Fair Desktop/Server

With "Interactive Setup" I get exactly the same results like you.

Acid7711 · 2007-12-08 08:42:52

p4ddY wrote:

Acid7711 wrote:
p4ddY wrote:
Do you have NVIDIA or ATI? I'm using a GeForce 4 with nvidia-96xx-zen and everything works fine.
Nvidia 8800GTS, it's not a graphics issue. The problem is that things bog way down...music will studder/stop for seconds, system will bog when gnome-terminal is opened, etc, but only when CF is running under the Zen kernel. On the system I have, things should never be bogging down.
Then you should try the default scheduler setup
Completely Fair Scheduler Tunables -> CFS predefined setups -> [x] Fair Desktop/Server
With "Interactive Setup" I get exactly the same results like you.

You are the man Thanks! Problem solved, I'd never have guessed it. Thanks.

Anonymo · 2007-12-15 16:40:02

Anyone have a package of this kernel built that I could get a link to?

Last edited by Anonymo (2007-12-15 16:40:25)

wavenator · 2007-12-15 20:12:14

you can find it over the aur

Anonymo · 2007-12-16 01:14:58

wavenator wrote:

you can find it over the aur

I keep getting compiling errors.

wavenator · 2007-12-16 13:24:28

http://www.mattparnell.com/zen/2.6.24-r … n0.tar.bz2

Anonymo · 2007-12-16 16:18:28

wavenator wrote:

http://www.mattparnell.com/zen/2.6.24-r … n0.tar.bz2

Thank you kind sir.

Anonymo · 2007-12-16 16:47:34

I thought the rc5 was broken.

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