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#1 2007-12-05 01:29:03

raul_nds
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What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Rules

Try to stick only to a MAJOR failure, ie, don't list all your Linux problems cool

"Everything is working! muhahaah " is not a valid post .Stop shoving it in our faces! tongue

We will assume that you already Googled and searched the forums.Again, this isn't intended as a last resort cry for help.

Of course this thread makes sense mostly for laptops, where you buy everything preloaded. But maybe you own a desktop from your windows days (like me), or a keyboard with 53 different multimedia buttons!

Point? See this as "user feedback" in not-rant form. maybe if this goes somewhere it helps seeing where Arch can improve! (If it's Arch specific, that is).

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I'll start:

I would have to say suspend/hibernate. For a laptop that's a major deal. If not for that, only my volume keys wouldn't be working (that I can remember of). And it's a pretty recent laptop. cool

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#2 2007-12-05 02:07:34

semperfiguy
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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Yup, its definatly suspend and hibernate..  Seems like everything else I've been able to get working without too much work.  Networking was surprisingly easy on arch.  But suspend and hibernate need some fixing

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#3 2007-12-05 03:42:28

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Suspend to RAM. (Hibernate works.)
...But suspend is a pain in the neck on many laptops, including this obscure Compaq presario 1200 that I'm using. It's more trouble that it's worth to me, so I'll live without it. My desktop runs perfectly. big_smile

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#4 2007-12-05 04:48:16

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

At the risk of being redundant, SUSPEND AND HIBERNATE.

Suspend almost works.  It's just that ACPI stops controlling my second CPU core after coming back.  So I'm left with one core at, say, 800Mhz, and the other at 1.6Ghz.  Fun.

Hibernate doesn't.

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#5 2007-12-05 05:24:40

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Damn 2nd rule... tongue

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#6 2007-12-05 05:29:21

F
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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

man, my Ipod won't work. It used to, but now I just can't get the damn thing to mount anymore.

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#7 2007-12-05 09:00:27

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

At the risk of being redundantly redundant _reliable_ suspend to ram/hibernate.

buttons: File a bug at the kernel bugzilla or on our bug tracker, that one should be solvable.

originally it was wireless, then my sd card reader... now this hardware is completely compatible.

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#8 2007-12-05 09:47:34

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

suspend2ram does not work (hibernate does though)

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#9 2007-12-05 15:35:51

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Occasionally after running shutdown scripts, the OS shuts down, but power isn't cut. Not really sure what causes this.

Also, my headphone jack broke a while ago and I had to buy a USB one, though that's a hard hardware problem...

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#10 2007-12-05 15:51:14

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

one more for suspend to RAM

also
touchpad (super slow) if listening CD in amaroK (works with music from HD though)

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#11 2007-12-05 16:22:33

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Well, I just got a Dell Inspireon 640m from work, and installed Arch. I have to say, *everything* works after some tinkering with the pm-utils scripts, even suspend to RAM and hibernate. This is really sweet. Of course, it took the rest of my hair to figure out which hooks to use, and I had to write my own hooks. And this is actually my concern. Looking at the scripts, it is easy to understand that you cannot easily make this automatic, but how does Windows do that (if it does, hehe)???
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#12 2007-12-05 16:43:26

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

i'm really shocked to see how many people use suspend/hibernate.  tbh i had that function working for a while, then it broke - but i never use it so i could care less.

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#13 2007-12-05 18:13:05

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

I don't know what the problem is, but I can't connect via vpnc

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#14 2007-12-05 18:47:46

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

rson451 wrote:

i'm really shocked to see how many people use suspend/hibernate.  tbh i had that function working for a while, then it broke - but i never use it so i could care less.

I guess, the idea behind it is: what's the point of a laptop if you (almost) always have to be connected? If you can only work for half an hour before you have drained you battery?

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#15 2007-12-06 14:00:48

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

nothing arch specific, but it would be great to have lightscribe working.

-$: file /dev/zero
/dev/zero: symbolic link to '/dev/brain'

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#16 2007-12-06 15:17:33

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Blind wrote:
rson451 wrote:

i'm really shocked to see how many people use suspend/hibernate.  tbh i had that function working for a while, then it broke - but i never use it so i could care less.

I guess, the idea behind it is: what's the point of a laptop if you (almost) always have to be connected? If you can only work for half an hour before you have drained you battery?

Ever try holding your desktop in your lap on the couch? smile

Seriously, there's plenty of reasons for a laptop other than just  the fact that it has a battery.  For example, I take mine to work with me, and at home I sit on the couch with the family while I log into work if I'm on call that night.

Now, to keep back on topic, I miss sound on my laptop.  It's a Toshiba Satellite P105-6227, and it's got ACPI issues preventing the sound from working right.

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#17 2007-12-06 15:31:00

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

ornitorrincos wrote:

nothing arch specific, but it would be great to have lightscribe working.

Lightscribe has been working for months on Arch. Have you updated your system lately?

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#18 2007-12-06 16:09:40

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Everything is working! muhahaah

Ohh wait, pacman -Rsc {insert_person_I_hate_here} doesn't work. wink

Seriously now.
I think the only thing (Although not Arch Related) I miss on my life with Linux is my PDA to sync and me having to be so choosy with the hardware or gadgets I buy. But, I do not accept the Windows License anymore so I stopped using anything that requires Windows.

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#19 2007-12-06 19:20:43

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Suspend and hibernate used to work - until catalyst was released hmm

But this is something to blame ati for, and i'm sure it will work again in any time.

The only thing that is really STILL a mess is wlan with a broadcom 4310. Ndiswrapper works awesome- but only on x86. On AMD64 it locks my notebook during boot.
Bcm43xx doesn't affect my notebook like this, but it sometimes has some problems connecting to networks. Some improvements here would be nice (it don't want to use ndiswrappper anymore) but that also isn't something to blame the arch developers for.

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#20 2007-12-07 12:59:45

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

skottish wrote:
ornitorrincos wrote:

nothing arch specific, but it would be great to have lightscribe working.

Lightscribe has been working for months on Arch. Have you updated your system lately?

thanks!, I didn't noticed it

-$: file /dev/zero
/dev/zero: symbolic link to '/dev/brain'

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#21 2007-12-07 15:10:59

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

F wrote:

man, my Ipod won't work. It used to, but now I just can't get the damn thing to mount anymore.

Not sure if this will be helpful but...

Is it a FAT formated ipod?  I used to have major problems with mine - not that it wouldn't mount, but it took forever to mount (4-5 minutes sometimes).  This is actually a bug and there is a kernel patch (fat_optimize-count-freeclus.patch) for this - if you're interested you can find it in this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/133567.

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#22 2007-12-07 18:21:15

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

My webcam. No linux drivers so it doesn't work at all. Also my printer doesn't work, which is really important. I have to restart to windows to print everytime sad Grr Lexmark for not making 64bit drivers!

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#23 2007-12-07 18:53:37

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

ornitorrincos wrote:
skottish wrote:
ornitorrincos wrote:

nothing arch specific, but it would be great to have lightscribe working.

Lightscribe has been working for months on Arch. Have you updated your system lately?

thanks!, I didn't noticed it

You're welcome. 4L is a good GUI for Lightscribe. It's available in AUR.

miggols99 wrote:

My webcam. No linux drivers so it doesn't work at all. Also my printer doesn't work, which is really important. I have to restart to windows to print everytime sad Grr Lexmark for not making 64bit drivers!

Post your hardware. Maybe someone has some info.

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#24 2007-12-07 20:59:32

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

my TerraTec Cinergy DT XS    :-/

lsusb

Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0ccd:005a TerraTec Electronic GmbH
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x0ccd TerraTec Electronic GmbH
  idProduct          0x005a
  bcdDevice            0.01
  iManufacturer           1 TerraTec
  iProduct                2 Cinergy DT XS
  iSerial                 3 070201001548
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           46
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower              500mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           4
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

dmesg

usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 2
usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
usb 4-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3

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#25 2007-12-07 21:06:19

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Re: What's the most important thing that isn't working in your hardware?

Finkregh wrote:

my TerraTec Cinergy DT XS    :-/

lsusb

Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0ccd:005a TerraTec Electronic GmbH
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x0ccd TerraTec Electronic GmbH
  idProduct          0x005a
  bcdDevice            0.01
  iManufacturer           1 TerraTec
  iProduct                2 Cinergy DT XS
  iSerial                 3 070201001548
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           46
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xa0
      (Bus Powered)
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower              500mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           4
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass      0
      bInterfaceProtocol      0
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               1
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass            0 (Defined at Interface level)
  bDeviceSubClass         0
  bDeviceProtocol         0
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

dmesg

usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 2
usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
usb 4-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 4-4: USB disconnect, address 3

You mean this?

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