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#1 2007-12-29 15:16:01

hlegius
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Preloads applications using ram

Hello there!

Recently I bought 4GB of ram for my notebook. My idea is preloading some applications like a kde, firefox, qt and gtk libs and binaries  for a better performance.

I tried to copy files from hd to ram using tmpfs and creating symbolic links from HD locations to ram location, but I think that has not improved anything neutral

I installed the preload from AUR, but it seems that not effect too...


Any ideas ?


p.s: sorry for my bad english.


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#2 2007-12-31 02:16:07

freakcode
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

You can try 'readahead', I guess it does what you want, but only while cold booting your notebook.

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#3 2007-12-31 02:38:12

lilsirecho
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

Perhaps a cachedir of your desired packages placed in flash drive can be preloaded into ram.

The cachedir in flash could be loaded from pacman as follows;

             ..... pacman --cachedir /media/disk/cache -Sw (package name(s)......
  Then the install of such packages is done as follows;

          ........pacman -Udf (paste package(s))...................

This produces a reasonably fast install.

I leave the ram part of the problem to your liking......


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#4 2007-12-31 02:59:58

hlegius
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

@freakcode
The preload script does a readahead, but isn't effective how I expected. I tried to use a "prelink" scripts. It's worked well, but now, it's crashes while prelinking libs/binaries neutral

I'm using a XFS filesystem now! I'm already searching more performance smile

@lilsirecho
hmm... I'll try this! If I got something new, I replay here smile

A 64bits O.S can boost performance, right ?


Thanks guys!


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#5 2007-12-31 06:17:35

lilsirecho
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

I ran a test of a full KDE download into cachedir .

Then used   

pacman -Udf /media/disk/Cache/*.pkg.tar.gz

to install the entire 225MB of KDE.

It took 95 seconds to install.


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#6 2007-12-31 07:52:30

byte
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

lilsirecho: He's not talking about package installation, but application startup.


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#7 2007-12-31 09:48:57

xdeusx
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

you could also try preload
its in aur...
runs on my system, even though i am not sure if it improved anything...

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#8 2007-12-31 10:38:29

hlegius
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

@xdeusx

Yeap! I'm using it, but I think it not improved anything in my system...

See the /var/log/preload.log file:

[Mon Dec 31 08:27:28 2007] 2923285kb available for preloading, using 43380kb of it
[Mon Dec 31 08:27:28 2007] readaheading 313 files

I'm giving ~2.9GB of ram for it, but it uses only ~43MB as ram cache neutral

And here, my free -m output

[root@Selene hlegius]# free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          3537        839       2697          0          0        573
-/+ buffers/cache:        265       3272
Swap:            0          0          0

Yes! I'm using the Arch i686 neutral I'll install the x86_64 today for wins more 500MB of ram which I'm losing with the i686


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#9 2008-01-01 07:18:43

skottish
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

hlegius wrote:

My idea is preloading some applications like a kde, firefox, qt and gtk libs and binaries  for a better performance.

It seems to me if QT (3 and/or 4) and GTK2 were loaded into memory at boot, that almost everything else that you're asking about would fall into place. Maybe there's a good way to do this?

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#10 2008-01-01 13:53:18

hlegius
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Re: Preloads applications using ram

skottish wrote:

It seems to me if QT (3 and/or 4) and GTK2 were loaded into memory at boot, that almost everything else that you're asking about would fall into place. Maybe there's a good way to do this?

Are you suggest  to load on ram only qt3 and gtk2 libraries and binaries ?


Finally, preload app gets more ram smile

[Tue Jan  1 11:50:06 2008] 3541229kb available for preloading, using 207172kb of it
[Tue Jan  1 11:50:06 2008] readaheading 291 files

Now, I'm using Arch64 with Reiserfs and JFS as filesystem and performance boosts a little smile


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#11 2008-01-01 14:39:42

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Re: Preloads applications using ram

hlegius wrote:

Are you suggest  to load on ram only qt3 and gtk2 libraries and binaries ?

It's something I was thinking about anyway. I'm not sure how to do such a thing though. I do know that starting QT and GTK for the first time is the only place where I still have bottlenecks on my system. Although, it's really not a big deal to me.

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#12 2008-01-01 16:42:37

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Re: Preloads applications using ram

A good test might to try out Faunos and run it from Ram

Been reading about software raid but it went waaay over my head


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