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#1 2008-01-07 11:50:00

bionnaki
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recommend a lightweight terminal

so, I'm looking for a terminal that is lightweight but yet has he ability to copy/paste and maybe has tabs. I have no use or want for transparency. what do you recommend? whats up with rxvt/urxvt/mrxvt?

thanks.

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#2 2008-01-07 12:49:45

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

I would recommend rxvt-unicode. It supports tabs and other nice features via it's perl extensions. Mrxvt is nice too, but AFAIK doesn't support unicode.

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#3 2008-01-07 14:22:16

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

aterm is cool. It has semi-transparency support (which I seem to like anyway tongue)

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#4 2008-01-07 16:54:47

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

terminal (the XFCE one) isn't bloated and supports tabs. From my experience it's the fastest terminal emulator out there (without font AA).

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#5 2008-01-07 17:38:32

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

Yup, Terminal with terminus-font is a nice combo.


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#6 2008-01-07 17:41:19

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

I use urxvt+screen configured to have "tabs" (non clickable, you control them with the keyboard)

Mrxvt was nice, used it for a lot of time, but switched to urxvt because of the lack of unicode support.

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#7 2008-01-07 19:46:15

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

+1 for Terminal.
The font AA is great if you use something like Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, but is rather useless with Terminus or Cure etc.


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#8 2008-01-07 19:55:44

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

urxvt is nice, but for speed and support xterm wins. Personally, I use urxvt only for the url matcher extension, which makes my life awesome!

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#9 2008-01-07 20:11:50

bionnaki
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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

thanks for the replies. trying them all out.

cant seem to copy/paste into urxvt. am I missing something or is this feature just not there?

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#10 2008-01-07 20:55:01

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

bionnaki wrote:

thanks for the replies. trying them all out.

cant seem to copy/paste into urxvt. am I missing something or is this feature just not there?

Try selecting something with a mouse and then pressing the middle button.  Shift-Insert should also paste the selected text.

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#11 2008-01-07 21:04:40

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

+1 for Terminal. The middle click paste thing is really inconvenient for me, so I dropped Xterm.

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#12 2008-01-07 21:48:51

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

bionnaki wrote:

thanks for the replies. trying them all out.

cant seem to copy/paste into urxvt. am I missing something or is this feature just not there?

Now we enter the realm of old-style unix holdovers. If you come from a Win32 world, you're most likely used to Ctrl-c and Ctrl-p. This isn't the way X11 traditionally works. When you middle click, X will paste the current highlighted text from somewhere else (called the "selection"). It's a different paradigm, but one that many people have gotten used to.

Ctrl-c is typically used to break out of a running program, so you don't want to reuse that for copying.

It's natural for me now, highlight some text, go to another window, middle click. But YMMV. There are other terminals which eschew the unix selection-style for the explicit (C-c/C-p) model.

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#13 2008-01-07 21:59:54

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

mrxvt is lighter on memory than rxvt-unicode; moreover it has an understandable stand-alone configuration files, with easy configuration of your own macro-shortcuts for whatever action (including copy, paste, open browser for urls selected with a double click...).
I have always disliked the syntax of .Xdefaults.
Actually I do not use tabs.


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#14 2008-01-07 22:17:33

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

phrakture wrote:
bionnaki wrote:

thanks for the replies. trying them all out.

cant seem to copy/paste into urxvt. am I missing something or is this feature just not there?

Now we enter the realm of old-style unix holdovers. If you come from a Win32 world, you're most likely used to Ctrl-c and Ctrl-p. This isn't the way X11 traditionally works. When you middle click, X will paste the current highlighted text from somewhere else (called the "selection"). It's a different paradigm, but one that many people have gotten used to.

Ctrl-c is typically used to break out of a running program, so you don't want to reuse that for copying.

It's natural for me now, highlight some text, go to another window, middle click. But YMMV. There are other terminals which eschew the unix selection-style for the explicit (C-c/C-p) model.

ah. working now. middle-click is easy enough for me - was using control-c. thanks.

.Xdefaults is the config file, correct?

Last edited by bionnaki (2008-01-07 22:27:36)

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#15 2008-01-07 22:36:23

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

Yeah, and don't forget to use 'xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults' after editing it.

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#16 2008-01-07 22:54:48

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

And don't forget to check out gnu screen.

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#17 2008-01-08 00:08:45

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

you may also want to try out dtatch - it's a slimmed down version of screen.

And urxvt has tabs itself - though I've never used them...
Usually I run urxvt through urxvt{d,c}. Just launch the daemon in your xinitrc and then attatch the clients. That's nice, lean and fast. Be sure to not type killall urxvtd, as this would really mess things up (I'm launching everything from terminals, and XMonad is only configured to launch urxvtc, so this is a dead-sure way to make me restart X big_smile).


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#18 2008-01-08 02:00:25

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

I use uxterm. My .Xdefaults only has colour information (and my cursor theme).

I have a shortcut key in Fluxbox that opens uxterm with my favourite options. I used to change it all the time, but it's been this way for a while:

uxterm +sb -geometry 128x44+20+20 -fa DejaVuSansMono -fs 11 -sl 1000 -cr orange -bg black -fg white

By the way, Shift+Insert also works for pasting. Kind of handy.

I like xfce4-terminal too, but I prefer to keep things light so I don't install programs that are tied to a desktop environment. wink

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#19 2008-01-08 02:19:02

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

so, how do you enable tabs in urxvt?

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#20 2008-01-08 03:41:12

Gilneas
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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

bionnaki wrote:

so, how do you enable tabs in urxvt?

pacman -S gtk2-perl
urxvt-tabbed

.Xdefaults resources:
URxvt.tabbed.tabbar-fg: 4
URxvt.tabbed.tabbar-bg: 0
URxvt.tabbed.tab-fg:    3
URxvt.tabbed.tab-bg:    0
URxvt.perl-ext-common:  tabbed

check man urxvt (<END>, <PGUP> wink) for color values.
the last one starts tabbed by default.

Keys: Shift+Left/Right = Prev/Next tab, Shift+Down = New tab.

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#21 2008-01-08 08:45:50

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

If you're good with perl, you can edit /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/tabbed to suit your needs.
I edited a few simple things (first time I worked with perl, so I probably made some mistakes, but it seems to work)

No more "NEW" in tabbar. And no activity signs.
And keys are now Ctrl+q/w/e for prev/next/new. (if someone can tell me how to disable a term freeze with Ctrl+s, I'd be grateful)

Here it is: pastebin
The only differences are in the refresh and tab_key_press functions.

Last edited by Gilneas (2008-01-08 23:26:45)

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#22 2008-01-08 13:30:06

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

Still OT, but does anyone know of a good introduction/guide/tutorial to the "advanced" features (perl stuff) of urxvt?

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#23 2008-01-08 16:28:55

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

i suggest sakura.  Cant say how light it is compared to others, but it seems fast and pretty.
http://www.pleyades.net/david/sakura.php


How does one run urxvt in daemon mode?  and what are the other launch options."Usually I run urxvt through urxvt{d,c}. Just launch the daemon in your xinitrc and then attatch the clients. "  what are the d,c?

i am running openbox currently, how would i launch it in urxvt, so that i can close the terminal and close x?  If thats what you are talking about.

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#24 2008-01-08 16:32:23

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

peets wrote:

Still OT, but does anyone know of a good introduction/guide/tutorial to the "advanced" features (perl stuff) of urxvt?

like man urxvtperl ?


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#25 2008-01-08 17:12:32

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Re: recommend a lightweight terminal

To be honest gnome-terminal doesn't seem that heavy to me. I like it because it's quite easy to configure, it has a decent menu, and also a decent font display. For everything else in a terminal I use GNU Screen.


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