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#1 2008-01-10 13:43:16

lost eden
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[SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

I've noticed that KDE applications only display half of the Japanese characters. As an example, a terminal will display this filename as "[10]_女子たちに明日はない.flac" but Konqueror or Amarok will display it as "[10]_女[][]に[]明[][][]日い.flac". I installed the following packages;

kde-i18n-ja
kde-i18n-ko
kde-i18n-zh-cn
kde-i18n-zh-tw

And in kcontrol I have all of these languages in the languages list (with US English at the top) & have also restarted the machine, but still KDE doesn't display all of the characters correctly?

Last edited by lost eden (2008-01-10 18:40:11)

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#2 2008-01-10 17:28:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

I think you should install font to support japanese caracter.

Try to install: ttf-arphic-ukai and/or ttf-arphic-uming

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#3 2008-01-10 17:43:19

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

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First the two examples you've shown contain equal ammount of simbols...
Second: 明How is that kanji read and what's it's meaning?
(I started learning japanese two mounths ago and I was almost able to translate that)


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#4 2008-01-10 17:50:35

lost eden
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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Dheart wrote:

[offtopic]
First the two examples you've shown contain equal ammount of simbols...
Second: 明How is that kanji read and what's it's meaning?
(I started learning japanese two mounths ago and I was almost able to translate that)

I edited the first post to prepely represent what I'm seeing. And I'm afraid I have no idea what that character is - I don't read kanji, but I like to see my song titles as characters rather than a load of boxes!

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#5 2008-01-10 18:29:36

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#6 2008-01-10 18:39:55

lost eden
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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Ah, got it. The default fonts (things like De Ja Vu, Bitstream Vera, Serif, etc.) don't render all of the characters, but Mona works fine.

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#7 2008-01-11 03:18:43

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

You could set up font substitution in qtconfig so you can still use your favorite English font while Asian characters will fall back on what ever font, or fonts, you list as a substitution. If a character isn't supported by the English font, it will fall back on the substitution list in the order that you list them. It works great for qt apps. Also you can do the same thing with .fonts.conf  see...
http://www.mail-archive.com/fonts@xfree … 00414.html

I like to use Bitsream Vera Serif as my default English font while having multiple Asian fonts and families set up in my qtconfig, and .fonts.conf for when I use simplified and traditional Chinese.


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#8 2008-01-11 03:27:57

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Dheart wrote:

Second: 明How is that kanji read and what's it's meaning?

http://www.docoja.com:8080/kanji/mainka … keyword=明日

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#9 2008-01-11 04:26:36

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

"明=ming"In Chinese. It means like.. "clear, bright".  but depends how you use it.

明亮=ming liang= brightness
明儿见=ming er jian= good night


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#10 2008-01-11 07:04:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Gilneas wrote:
Dheart wrote:

Second: 明How is that kanji read and what's it's meaning?

http://www.docoja.com:8080/kanji/mainka … keyword=明日

... That's a kanji - you cannot search it in this dictionary, since you don't know how it's pronounced.

@Leigh thanks, the japanese meaning is the same, but pronounced "meirou" (at least the kun reading)


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#11 2008-01-11 13:51:46

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Dheart wrote:
Gilneas wrote:
Dheart wrote:

Second: 明How is that kanji read and what's it's meaning?

http://www.docoja.com:8080/kanji/mainka … keyword=明日

... That's a kanji - you cannot search it in this dictionary, since you don't know how it's pronounced.

@Leigh thanks, the japanese meaning is the same, but pronounced "meirou" (at least the kun reading)

yes you can tongue http://www.docoja.com:8080/kanji/kansea … 8E&stype=0

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#12 2008-01-11 21:20:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

bb10 wrote:
Dheart wrote:

... That's a kanji - you cannot search it in this dictionary, since you don't know how it's pronounced.

@Leigh thanks, the japanese meaning is the same, but pronounced "meirou" (at least the kun reading)

yes you can tongue http://www.docoja.com:8080/kanji/kansea … 8E&stype=0

Allright, sorry, I overlooked that wink


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#13 2008-01-16 19:13:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Wiktionary can also be a good place to look up Kanji.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/明

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#14 2008-03-04 17:55:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Gilneas wrote:

Wiktionary can also be a good place to look up Kanji.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/明

And check http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html out.


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#15 2008-04-25 17:00:38

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Get StarDict.  You will absolutely love it, I promise!  Also get Anki to help you study.  And don't forget JWPce!  がんばって ください!


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#16 2008-05-21 13:34:50

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

How do you get qtconfig for qt3? I've installed kdebase, but alt+2 qtconfig gets me the one for qt4...

----update----

I found it under /opt/qt/bin/, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Setting fonts and themes does not affect the looks of amarok at all.

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#17 2008-05-22 08:32:10

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Re: [SOLVED] Japanese characters in KDE

Seems to work fine here. I have both qtconfig for qt3 and qt4 set the same using qtcurve and font substitution. I rarely use amorak but tried opening it with a Chinese locale. It's using the Chinese font I have listed as a substitute, and no apparent problems with the qtcurve theme.


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