fresh install + e17 = only 40 mb ram usage? can this be true?

b9anders · 2008-01-14 10:17:48

I just did a fresh install of arch. I haven't added any deamons to the default list except alsa. First thing I did was compile e17 via easy_17, and I am now running e17 with basic modules like clock, calendar, battery, temperature, mixer, pager, ibar, ibox, start and dropshadows, no DM.

Running htop in xterm in e17, just after booting up, it tells me that my ram usage is a mere 40 MB ram.

Can this really be true? It sounds incredibly low.

iggy · 2008-01-14 10:28:08

running e17 here - some daemons like dbus, autofs, alsa, mpd and firefox, pidgin - my system uses actually 150mb ram!

yes its true!

e17 is an underrated DE/WM!!!

mfg iggy

Mikko777 · 2008-01-14 10:37:27

you get 40Mb if you have no opengl dri extensions loaded in xorg conf, when you load 3d stuff ram usage jumps to 140Mb.

b9anders · 2008-01-14 10:45:42

Mikko777 wrote:

you get 40Mb if you have no opengl dri extensions loaded in xorg conf, when you load 3d stuff ram usage jumps to 140Mb.

I haven't even got a xorg.conf file yet, so I doubt that stuff gets loaded.:)

byte · 2008-01-14 10:54:43

How much does your Xorg process use? I find that after the xorg-server 1.3.0 release it went up quite a bit, possibly because the Composite extension is now enabled by default.

b9anders · 2008-01-14 12:17:55

byte wrote:

How much does your Xorg process use? I find that after the xorg-server 1.3.0 release it went up quite a bit, possibly because the Composite extension is now enabled by default.

well, I just generated a xorg.conf file using 'hwd -xa' and that made for an additional 50MB ram in usage on boot. Guess I have some tweaking to do.

I suppose commenting out glx and dri is a good place to start...?

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peets · 2008-01-15 14:13:42

If you have a lot of memory, why not make use of it? I'm assuming this is a home/desktop computer. It's nice to have features like caching of web pages, music, etc. or fancy 3D effects, if it doesn't slow down your regular use. I use up lots of RAM to speed up my daily computer use.

schivmeister · 2008-01-15 16:07:39

Of course it's true. the elive distro runs on systems with 64MB RAM

b9anders · 2008-01-15 20:06:32

peets wrote:

If you have a lot of memory, why not make use of it? I'm assuming this is a home/desktop computer. It's nice to have features like caching of web pages, music, etc. or fancy 3D effects, if it doesn't slow down your regular use. I use up lots of RAM to speed up my daily computer use.

256 MB of ram. I too enjoy a featurefull desktop, but speed is equally imperative. e17 gives you something of both worlds.

quick question. It seems the only thing I really need from my xorg.conf is the keyboard configuration as it figures out the rest pretty well without a configuration file. Could I delete everything else from xorg.conf and have it autoconfigure the rest?

byte · 2008-01-16 01:20:11

You don't even need it for that, if you can manage to let setxkbmap run automatically on Xorg start.

hacosta · 2008-01-16 03:28:16

b9aders

if you don't have an xorg.conf, X "uses the xorg.conf" that would be generated by running X -configure, why don't you run the command and tweak it to suit your needs?

Shaika-Dzari · 2008-01-16 04:31:06

I get 55 mo with Fvwm

b9anders · 2008-01-16 10:06:44

byte wrote:

You don't even need it for that, if you can manage to let setxkbmap run automatically on Xorg start.

how would I do that?

hacosta wrote:

b9aders
if you don't have an xorg.conf, X "uses the xorg.conf" that would be generated by running X -configure, why don't you run the command and tweak it to suit your needs?

thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.

b9anders · 2008-01-16 10:25:25

ok, this is a bit noobish, but how do I kill X?

I tried X -configure but get

# X -configure

Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
    If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
    and start again.

I've tried killall X, ctrl-alt-del, kill entrance but it keeps defaulting back to Entrance. Changing run levels didn't help either.

I suppose I could edit inittab to just start in runlevel 3, but I am sure there's a less convoluted way of doing this.

kendosperling · 2008-01-16 10:56:34

you can do this by giving "init 3" as root in a terminal of your choice

b9anders · 2008-01-16 11:17:35

I am reluctant to do that again as the entire system froze up last time I did that.

Want to be careful about crashing when on jfs.

kendosperling · 2008-01-16 11:58:00

what about switching to a "real" Terminal by ctrl+alt+F2 and give init 3 ?

b9anders · 2008-01-16 13:20:00

kendosperling wrote:

what about switching to a "real" Terminal by ctrl+alt+F2 and give init 3 ?

thanks that did it.

Anyway, I played around with the .conf file generated by X -configure and no matter how much I trimmed it prior to breaking it, it still loaded more than 50Mb into ram than it does without a configuration file.

Seeing as it is only the keyboard setting I need it for, I think byte's suggestion might be the way to go:

byte wrote:

You don't even need it for that, if you can manage to let setxkbmap run automatically on Xorg start.

Anyone know how to do that?

byte · 2008-01-16 13:54:31

Does E17 have an equivalent to the Autostart directory in KDE?

b9anders · 2008-01-16 13:55:57

byte wrote:

Does E17 have an equivalent to the Autostart directory in KDE?

somewhat, yes.

b9anders · 2008-01-19 17:55:15

does anyone know how to make a script to handle this? I don't want to pay 50mb of ram to have proper keyboard settings.

skottish · 2008-01-19 18:14:02

byte wrote:

Does E17 have an equivalent to the Autostart directory in KDE?

Configuration--> Configuration Panel--> Applications--> Startup Applications

As far as I know it requires the entries to have desktop files though. (If someone knows something I don't here, please jump in. I'd like to know.) It's location in the menu structure is ~/.e/e/applications/startup, and is a plain text file.

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fresh install + e17 = only 40 mb ram usage? can this be true?

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