Archie Deceased?

shining · 2008-02-03 12:34:02

Why are there so many projects for creating live/install cd? (archboot, archiso, larch, archie scripts?)
If our man power was infinite, it would probably be good to try different concepts, but afaik it's far from being the case
I don't know much about these projects, so I could be wrong. It's just that it looks like there are some duplicated efforts.

z4ziggy · 2008-02-03 18:13:30

I agree and disagree. There is always room for alternatives (as it is all over the linux/OSS world), but i often find myself thinking the same about the waste of men power, work hours, etc, with all those alternatives to choose from instead of having one "perfect", solid, option.

with that said, i just want to refresh history a bit - Archie was the 1st live-creation-kit for Arch. Then came larch. Then the rest of them.

raymano · 2008-02-03 18:36:51

The main problem is that there is never a "perfect, solid" option and there can't be. What's perfect and solid to one is not to the other.

This is also the case with all open-source projects, and in general, any ecosystem that has to evolve. That's why there are so many open-source projects, many of them trying to accomplish the same exact thing. That's the nature of creativity rising from free and open systems. There are a lot of redundancies in such systems and there has to be.

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lilsirecho · 2008-02-03 19:08:48

In addition to the comments already made, I submit that change is occurring always.

With new devices comes new opportunities that were not possible previously.

Thus development of a new Live system is then possible., and probable.

Latest news item claims 5x speed increase in flash devices( and probably 5 times the price!) but this opens up fabulous capability in all attempts to build Live programs, especially if the capacity increases in the next advance (probably with 45nm devices).

Keep the "Live" alive!!!!

EDIT: Nanoresearch has provided a possible heat-sink improvement for transistor fab. Other nano methods show promise as well. 10ghz clock?

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Mr Green · 2008-02-03 20:17:36

I agree.. if it was not for Knoppix I would never have even tried Linux

With pendrives you can truly carry your os in your pocket :-)

Larch Archie Faunos why reinvent the wheel pool your knowledge create the best and fastest live distro on the planet

lilsirecho · 2008-02-03 21:46:00

A commitee of three is never as good as a committee of one.

Approach the problem from many angles...find the best and then do it over again because it doesn't fit all sizes and needs!!!!

Always something to do!!!!

EDIT: Arch to Larch to Faunos...evolves and utilizes latest tech.....

EDIT: From cd Live to flash Live is greater capability and less hardware...faster....

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raymano · 2008-02-04 03:21:33

Mr Green wrote:

I agree.. if it was not for Knoppix I would never have even tried Linux
With pendrives you can truly carry your os in your pocket :-)
Larch Archie Faunos why reinvent the wheel pool your knowledge create the best and fastest live distro on the planet

Larch and FaunOS actually interact quite a bit. We are made with Larch so we have got our knowledge pooled together.

I have mentioned I would like to create a light version of FaunOS, using xfce4, or openbox. Something lean and fast. Under 256MBs. I would welcome anyone who would like to help.

Sigi · 2008-02-04 04:00:49

raymano wrote:

I have mentioned I would like to create a light version of FaunOS, using xfce4, or openbox. Something lean and fast. Under 256MBs. I would welcome anyone who would like to help.

I've never tried faunOS but I've built my own Live-systems using larch. Feel free to mail me if you need something to be done (i.e. artwork, documentation, openbox configs, ...) I'll see if I've got time to help you.

venky80 · 2008-02-04 04:02:58

yes that is what I am waiting for raymano for my old ibm laptop or even my core 2 duo laptop.
something which is screaming fast, well already arch is pretty fast but I cant tell my windows buddies to see how easy /fast it is .

lilsirecho · 2008-02-04 04:28:54

My system is an older asus without USB boot but it has 3GB of ram.

I can use USB flash with a CD boot disk to enter the Faunos system.

I also can load the faunos system from a Compact Flash device using a CF/IDE adapter.

With a flash cachedir, I can load a video player, such as mplayer. This is loaded via pacman and resides in ram, it is not installed into the system flash drive. I also copy a 1GB video file from cachedir into Desktop,

Then I play the video from the ram-installed items at the best performance possible...no perceptible delays or loss of sync even when scrolling back and forth across the video file.

With 1GB video and mplayer, the total ram in use is 1,915,580 KB with 1,210,520KB free and no swap in use.

I have to try this with VLC!

Let you know......

By the way, faunos in my core duo with Pentium 4 loads in 30 seconds from "starting faunos". Not really a running core2 mobo, tho with Pentium 4.

Anyi686 system should be able to install Faunos with one of the options which also includes USB flash if boot from flash is a bios option.
EDIT: One last observation, you can download a new package and test it without installing to flash if you so desire. If you desire to install to flash, save session on reboot.

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