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#1 2008-02-05 06:17:44

smitty
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capabilities of Wine and Cedega

So far as I know the Wine Project is getting very far in Windows emulation. According to some other Linux forums, they mentioned you can do pretty much anything in Wine. Is there anything that Wine cannot do at this point?
Also, I used to read that Wine had problems with DirectX based programs. Is this a problem any more with the current versions of Wine (and Cedega, for that matter)?

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#2 2008-02-05 07:52:48

Gilneas
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

Wine is really great. I have played many games with it (most were DirectX I think).

winehq.org has a large database you should check out for anything you want to run on it. It can help with showstopping hurdles to getting a few extra FPS out of your game.
And also with telling you "The Bad News" (i.e. your favourite app has a Garbage rating... but, if all the bugs are known, it will probably get fixed in the future.)

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#3 2008-02-05 12:59:04

Sekre
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Registered: 2006-11-24
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

not too often you find games that won't work in wine anymore. Getting better support all the time.

However, you will still find stuff not working correctly. Mostly MP features in games using weird 3rdparty stuff (like ncsoft's asian titles), or you may find that gaming in wine will disable some graphic effects (advanced shaders in City of Villians for example). Mostly its good though.

Oh, and a thing about the rating system on winehq.org. Don't take that as 100% true all the time, cuz pretty often (at least on less wellknown games) it can take quite a while between tests there, so it may be reported with garbage on wine .37 but works flawlessly on current.

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#4 2008-02-05 13:20:21

Allan
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I just read about wine supporting Office 2003 pretty much right out of the box: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/01 … -with.html

I tried getting Office running about 6 months ago and failed.  So there is definitely progress being continuously made.  I am going to test this out because Office is the only reason I have a 5Gb vmware image taking up space on my laptop...

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#5 2008-02-06 05:19:17

jb
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Registered: 2006-06-22
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I tried installing Office 2003 with 0.9.54; it installs and runs without any noticeable issues.

Is there anything that Wine cannot do at this point?

It still cannot run Geometry Wars or NHL 07.  Also, java won't install.  I know it sounds odd, but (as far as I know) windows apps that call java "binaries" need it to run.


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#6 2008-02-06 09:33:18

ornitorrincos
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From: Bilbao, spain
Registered: 2006-11-20
Posts: 198

Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

proteus runs in wine, but the interface it's painfully slow, so I had to make a virtualbox image with windows


-$: file /dev/zero
/dev/zero: symbolic link to '/dev/brain'

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#7 2008-02-06 15:54:26

Obi-Lan
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I've been playing half-life episode 2 with wine and it works nicely. Didn't even get any graphical errors. Tried same with latest Cedega and it wont even start the game. Cedega can't also install .msi packets which wine seems to do(?). I guess folks at transgaming know that wine is running ahead of them and started to concentrate more on cider (=their apple game emulator).

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#8 2008-02-06 22:51:27

Misfit138
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From: USA
Registered: 2006-11-27
Posts: 4,189

Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I have had bad luck with wine. sad
About the only thing that I have gotten to work is Diablo II.
Battlefield 2 crashes immediately, Battlefield 2142 does the same..a Character generator for Diablo II doesn't work..

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#9 2008-02-06 23:24:03

schivmeister
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Registered: 2007-05-17
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I'd have to give it up to the wine guys, much kudos. Well, windows-bashing aside, this is really THE linux app that can haz grande impacto.


I need real, proper pen and paper for this.

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#10 2008-02-07 21:27:21

Bestiapeluda
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From: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Registered: 2007-10-16
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I play Wow in wine. Everything works perfect.

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#11 2008-02-20 22:08:56

likpok
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

The current deal with Wine and Cedega is that a while ago (few years), wine had really bad DirectX support. So Cedega forked it into a commercial product, hacked around it, and gave it better support.

Now Wine has better DirectX support, and is LGPL'd (iirc), so Cedega is starting to fall behind. It is losing out mainly because it hacked around errors in Wine, and now Wine does thing "correctly".

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#12 2008-03-06 01:00:47

dan17
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Registered: 2008-03-03
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I tried to play to Battlefield 1942 and nothing to do.
I do not understand why is this game in the list of the applications winehq.

Call of duty 2 was ok, but I do not know how I did it to get it works :-)

One thing that I do not understand with Cedega is that it is not free but you can get the source code via CVS, compile and run ?

A++
Dan

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#13 2008-03-06 02:04:20

jb
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From: Florida
Registered: 2006-06-22
Posts: 466

Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

That may still be true.  But the original gotcha was that it was uncommon for a checkout to compile.  Gentoo got in trouble with them a while back because they tracked the compilable code in portage.


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#14 2008-03-06 09:10:47

Flying Saxman
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From: Northern Hesse
Registered: 2007-02-26
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I tell you what does not work via wine: ebay's Turbolister! This app is the only reason, why I still have Windows installed!

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#15 2008-03-06 23:08:41

dan17
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Re: capabilities of Wine and Cedega

I installed gentoo because it was the only distrib proposing cedega (so I did not find other), but I were really disapointed when I tried to install via emerge - I could not lol
So I downloaded an eval version and tested but I had bad performance ... but I did not know what I know today about X configuration (and less than tomorrow I hope smile)

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