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ora

Member

Registered: 2007-06-20

Posts: 26

Better ABS/AUR support

Archlinux is a great  disto & I use it for a long time.
Now I want to know if there is a standard tool like pacman about ABS/AUR.
I have tried yaourt and it works well.
Why archlinux not integrate abs/aur into pacman?
Or offer a simpler way that I can compile some key packages when install archlinux,for example, kernel26 with more security patches.
And it's hard to  disguise what I installed from repo or abs.

And I find archlinux is too slim that I can't find some devel files. For example I have to grab glib-doc from aur, and recompile some packages from src manually to gain devel files.

Plus, can I restricted what to install,
I enable testing unable branch, I want to disable it  temporarily when sync particular package

shining

Pacman Developer

Registered: 2006-05-10

Posts: 2,043

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

Archlinux is a great  disto & I use it for a long time.
Now I want to know if there is a standard tool like pacman about ABS/AUR.
I have tried yaourt and it works well.
Why archlinux not integrate abs/aur into pacman?

From http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_User_Guidelines

Users can share PKGBUILDs using the UNSUPPORTED area in the AUR. UNSUPPORTED does not contain any binary packages but allows users to upload PKGBUILDs that can be downloaded by others. A comments facility allows users to provide suggestions and feedback on improvements to the PKGBUILD contributor. A new flagging system allows TUs to mark pkgs as checked for malicious code. However, these PKGBUILDs are completely unofficial and have not been thoroughly vetted, so they should be used at your own risk.

Or offer a simpler way that I can compile some key packages when install archlinux,for example, kernel26 with more security patches.

What is wrong with abs + makepkg ?

And it's hard to  disguise what I installed from repo or abs.

Try pacman -Qm. That will work for packages from aur, and packages from abs if you renamed them.
If you didnt rename them, but they have a different version, pacman -Su will warn you about it.

And I find archlinux is too slim that I can't find some devel files. For example I have to grab glib-doc from aur, and recompile some packages from src manually to gain devel files.

no idea what you mean here..

Plus, can I restricted what to install,
I enable testing unable branch, I want to disable it  temporarily when sync particular package

packages in unstable repo have different names.
About testing repo, it's recommended to either use it totally, or not use it at all.
But well, you are always free to do what you want, you are on your own then

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Snowman

Developer/Forum Fellow

From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

And I find archlinux is too slim that I can't find some devel files. For example I have to grab glib-doc from aur, and recompile some packages from src manually to gain devel files.

If you are talking about docs and info pages, they are stripped from packages by default. If you need them, install the corresponding *-doc package as you did or rebuild the package from abs with:
options=('docs')
added to the PKGBUILD.

tomk

Forum Fellow

From: Ireland

Registered: 2004-07-21

Posts: 9,604

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

The general rule regarding devel files is that we do not split packages, so devel files are packaged with the associated application. If you believe we are missing some, please post a feature request.

ora

Member

Registered: 2007-06-20

Posts: 26

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

Thanks for your help.

I suggest not to stripe *all* the docs by default. Stripe the duplicate docs. Gcc,gdb,glib,X...'s infos are useful. You can tell users how to stripe it in wiki if the user really want to.

Where can I find the changelog before I update the package. I can't tell the difference between kernel 26 2.6.24.3-1 and kernel26 2.6.24.3-3 for example. Why you repackage it to fix what bugs.

I complain too much maybe because I truly love it. It just works and rocks. There're still potentials we can improve it.

ora

Member

Registered: 2007-06-20

Posts: 26

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

If you are talking about docs and info pages, they are stripped from packages by default. If you need them, install the corresponding *-doc package as you did or rebuild the package from abs with:
options=('docs')
added to the PKGBUILD.

I tried and it's really simple to bring back info pages. Forget my above thread.

dolby

Member

From: 1992

Registered: 2006-08-08

Posts: 1,581

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

this has been discussed many times before. searching the forum will give you aditional info about the subject

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shining

Pacman Developer

Registered: 2006-05-10

Posts: 2,043

Re: Better ABS/AUR support

omg, you can actually search the forum? Man, I learn something every day

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pacman roulette : pacman -S $(pacman -Slq | LANG=C sort -R | head -n $((RANDOM % 10)))