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holmess

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Registered: 2008-03-25

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Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

The ease of installation and eye candy from Ubuntu made me drool all over my keyboard. But then a little later i felt that overwhelming feeling of freshness, Purity is not new. I had a similar feeling when i installed Vi$ta. Someone does the smart work, you install and try to feel the power. What i was missing was that very feeling of power and control. Ubuntu did not provide me. All it provided me something extraordinary entirely for free. And i am not very good at receiving gifts, especially free. Anyways i still felt i am not a part of my computer. I mean i am limited to simple mouse clicks when i talk to my computer. It's like an old marriage where most of the conversation is confined to a fixed set of vocabulary. It just didn't feel right like the second part of every great blockbuster. I wanted to talk to my box, i meant type, press enter and except something you expect to happen. Not start yelling inside of you "S***t, F**k, S*B, i can't believe i clicked "Yes", F**k F**k F**k". It was obvious that my change from M$ needed to be more of a reality, like Anderson to Neo, Matrix to Nebucadnezzar, Red Headed blond to Trinity and so on. So unsatisfied i was still looking at other Linux versions and i discovered ArchLinux.

Not a very catchy or an attractive name when you have Linux in it (Ubuntu, Redhat, Opensuse, Mandriva, Fedora, FreeBSD, No *inux). But ArchLinux has a philosophy, completely different from others. Most of the Linux flavors exist because someone decided they wanted their own. ArchLinux was more of necessity, need like comics, porn, masturbation, fastfood, Paycheck etc. Can't compare these to the quality of ArchLinux. I usually beleive that smart people are usually lazy, By lazy means trying to do things in easier ways, not to stop doing things.

This idea of living usually leads to identifying the critical aspects and try to keep their integrity in tact and also try to isolate things in such a way that when shit hits the fan, you still are able to get the car keys with getting showered with shit. Just like ArchLinux does, keep your core integrity always manageable and develop it out of realms of other influences such as Gnome, KDE, XFCE and others. Just as a reminder probably the fundamental breath that gave life to Linux.These days every Linux flavor tend to gravitate or favor KDE, or Gnome or some shit.

Ability to customize is one thing but in achieving that you should be aware that you are not tied down to your own customization. Opensuse shit mouthed that they will drop KDE or Gnome one of those. Ubuntu works fine but Kubuntu has seen more crashes and Xubuntu always is a distant cousin of the family. This is so against Linux central idea. A distro provider should never have preferences. In other words there is some sort of push like all the people who use Ubuntu are Gnomers.

Because change is like death or divorce when it hits trust me you change beyond recognition. But a smart man will have an insurance and have signed a pre-nup or have stuck to a Linux Flavor that has nothing to do with anything else other than the Kernel. So that very idea brings ArchLinux out as the most faithful follower of Linux Philosophy.

The other fundamental idea that has been violated by many other distro's is their weakness to push GUI on you. All the gooey stuff is all over you. In their maniacal pursuit to get away from MS they all ended up to be copy cats of MS. More so they flatter MS by imitating it. Linux is a Porsche, in an attempt to become affordable or the best seller you cannot morph to look like a Toyota. Not every body should own a porsche or should be able to drive a porsche. Oh yes, i don't disagree the idea that Porsche makes something for my grandma but i can't stand the idea of them stop making real porsche. Many distro's has evolved into slightly faster, better looking versions of MS rather than improved more stable Linuxes. There is no way you can speed up evolution. Mutants are not desirable either. A perfect balance has to be struck. I think ArchLinux did it. Provided GUI when it is absolutely needed. But for running day to day tasks there is plenty of play area to use CLI.

peets

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From: Montreal

Registered: 2007-01-11

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

I was disappointed when I was shopping for a fridge. All fridges had features I liked and features I disliked, and I was unable to build my own with all the right features. The freedom of linux gives weird habits.

Yet there are a whole bunch of things that I find restrictive in my computer experience. Linux is not THAT great, it's just the most popular free OS. There's a bunch of software I'm "stuck" using because it's the only one that has such and such a feature I need, even though some part of it I'd rather have another way.

Freedom comes in layers. Like moving into bigger rooms.

P.S. were you drunk.

Sigi

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Registered: 2005-09-22

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

@holmess: Nice post    I agree to a lot of the points you made, otherwise I wouldn't hang around in the forum...

PS: Were you drunk? :-)

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holmess

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Registered: 2008-03-25

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Was i that drunk? Both of your posts has Post Scriptum as "Were you Drunk?". Let me know why you guys thought so. Glad for reading my posts.

--Praveen

shining

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Was i that drunk? Both of your posts has Post Scriptum as "Were you Drunk?". Let me know why you guys thought so. Glad for reading my posts.

That's very strange indeed..

PS: Were you drunk? :-)

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lucke

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Aye.

P.S. Were you drunk?

koch

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From: Germany

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

perhaps not drunk, threre is more out there...

but i think we should stop this now.

finferflu

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Wow! Very creative post
Welcome home

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koch

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Welcome home

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dyscoria

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

Welcome home

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Think it was meant to be a pun on the OP's name. Either that or i'm giving finferflu too much credit

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koch

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Registered: 2008-01-26

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

argghhh...ok, now i got it.

mrcold

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

I was disappointed when I was shopping for a fridge. All fridges had features I liked and features I disliked, and I was unable to build my own with all the right features. The freedom of linux gives weird habits.

QFT
with me it was a car..

ph0tios

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Registered: 2008-02-23

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

I was disappointed when I was shopping for a fridge. All fridges had features I liked and features I disliked, and I was unable to build my own with all the right features. The freedom of linux gives weird habits.

Unfortunately, this has been my problem with girlfriends.

koch

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From: Germany

Registered: 2008-01-26

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Re: Lessons Learnt, Opinions Evolve, Simply put moving forward.(ArchLinux)

I was disappointed when I was shopping for a fridge. All fridges had features I liked and features I disliked, and I was unable to build my own with all the right features. The freedom of linux gives weird habits.

Unfortunately, this has been my problem with girlfriends.

*ROFL* this is great