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#1 2008-03-29 20:08:52

broch
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deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

does Arch still use
ACPI_PROCFS_POWER

although marked as deprecated in vanilla kernel, this option seemed to be requirement for proper ACPI function. Disabling this option caused some problems with ACPI in Arch

just wondering if this is still needed before I compile new kernel.

Thanks

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#2 2008-03-29 21:53:40

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

every client is different
kima different, conky different, pmtools different etc


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#3 2008-03-29 22:44:17

broch
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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

Thank you for your response,

I am not interested is monitoring, there is plenty tools for this, however without this option Arch was not able to run suspend for example. As this is marked as deprecated in kernel, I wonder if Arch still needs it for proper ACPI functionality.

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#4 2008-03-30 04:40:19

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

suspend is dony by pmtools right ?
you can easily look in source code and you will see if it uses /proc/acpi or /sys


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#5 2008-03-30 07:09:13

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

Yes, still needed. In kernel world it may be deprecated in favour of newer/better mechanics, but the userspace world has to adapt. As of now, plenty of deprecated stuff still have an app or two out there depending on them. The alternative is to get rid of the proc/acpi support but leave the folders, the options are in the same section. Don't know whether that'd provide a workaround though.


I need real, proper pen and paper for this.

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#6 2008-03-30 21:52:01

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

actually in past this was not possible. Disabling this option in kernel messed up some of ACPI options. Well then I will compile kernel without this, if problems will arise I will re-compile kernel again.

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#7 2008-03-31 08:14:49

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

Disabling the /proc/acpi folders breaks the battery display in KDE.

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#8 2008-03-31 10:47:02

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

brain0 wrote:

Disabling the /proc/acpi folders breaks the battery display in KDE.

kde does not display battery
user space applications do
so which one sir ? kima works ok i.e.
there is kpowermanager, klaptopdaemon etc etc


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#9 2008-03-31 11:14:32

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

zyghom wrote:
brain0 wrote:

Disabling the /proc/acpi folders breaks the battery display in KDE.

kde does not display battery
user space applications do
so which one sir ? kima works ok i.e.
there is kpowermanager, klaptopdaemon etc etc

I am talking about the default battery display applet, I believe the name is klaptop_check.

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#10 2008-03-31 13:08:32

broch
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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

zyghom wrote:
brain0 wrote:

Disabling the /proc/acpi folders breaks the battery display in KDE.

kde does not display battery
user space applications do
so which one sir ? kima works ok i.e.
there is kpowermanager, klaptopdaemon etc etc

do you have custom kernel without ACPI_PROCFS_POWER and battery applet working?

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#11 2008-03-31 15:00:16

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Re: deprecated ACPI folders - still needed?

Oh, it's the klaptop daemon. Dependent on /proc/acpi yes.


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