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brain0

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2.6.25 enters [testing]

Not much to say, just read this: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-gen … 17412.html

Last edited by brain0 (2008-04-19 16:33:09)

Roberth

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Nice, nvidia-beta from aur is recommended for nvidia users, since it has a lot of fixes to 2.6.25 compability.

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15152

Be sure to do some changes so it compiles for the new kernel.

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bender02

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

I found that with the .25 kernel, the loop module needs to be inserted manually in /etc/rc.conf if you mount any loop filesystems automatically in fstab (didn't need to be with .24 kernels).

EDIT: Otherwise - works great (so far). Thanks.

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buddabrod

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Works like expected
Great thing.

brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

I found that with the .25 kernel, the loop module needs to be inserted manually in /etc/rc.conf if you mount any loop filesystems automatically in fstab (didn't need to be with .24 kernels).

Forgot to mention that, yes. 'loop' is not system-critical and thus should be modular. This makes the kernel (which everybody must have in memory) a little bit smaller.

Last edited by brain0 (2008-04-19 18:21:48)

ekerazha

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

b) I am trying to reduce the amount of
patching, especially if it only benefits a few people

Very good

bender02

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Forgot to mention that, yes. 'loop' is not system-critical and thus should be modular. This makes the kernel (which everybody must have in memory) a little bit smaller.
<snippet from email>
- Complete configuration overhaul

Could you please post somewhere the diff for configs? (I know, I can do it myself... just that it might be useful for others to see as well).
EDIT: Actually, since the default conf place changed, it's pretty easy (right?):
diff /usr/src/linux-2.6.25-ARCH/.config /boot/kconfig26.pacsave
EDIT: Nope, my bad. The one in /boot is pretty old.

Last edited by bender02 (2008-04-19 18:41:26)

brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Could you please post somewhere the diff for configs? (I know, I can do it myself... just that it might be useful for others to see as well).
EDIT: Actually, since the default conf place changed, it's pretty easy (right?):
diff /usr/src/linux-2.6.25-ARCH/.config /boot/kconfig26.pacsave
EDIT: Nope, my bad. The one in /boot is pretty old.

Voilà: http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel/

bender02

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Voilà: http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/kernel/

Thanks! I see there's been at least one other change that could make it to the news when the kernel hits core: nfs(d) as module.
One more question:

+CONFIG_HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT=y
...
+# CONFIG_LATENCYTOP is not set

Why?

brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Good point, might want to add that option as well.

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

So far so good (x86_64).

Thanks.

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nDray

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

I did the update to benefit from iwlwifi 1.2.
From the mailing list i get that "you didn't update any modules". What does that mean?
I still have iwlwifi 1.'old wpa-crappy version'?
I notice a little more stability, but it could be placebo, as a while ago wpa_supplicant was dropping like hell... I can also blame this APs where I am right now.......

venky80

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

is linux uvc webcam support included?

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buddabrod

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

I did the update to benefit from iwlwifi 1.2.
From the mailing list i get that "you didn't update any modules". What does that mean?
I still have iwlwifi 1.'old wpa-crappy version'?
I notice a little more stability, but it could be placebo, as a while ago wpa_supplicant was dropping like hell... I can also blame this APs where I am right now.......

Just do a modinfo iwl4965 ;P
You'll see.
brain0 was talking about external modules, iwl4965 for instance is directly shipped with the kernel.

wuischke

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

The new iwlwifi hasn't improved my 11a-networks-not-working situation at all. It's really frustrating.

Else: No problems with the new kernel package, it was a smooth upgrade and I encountered no problems.

stylopath

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Update was smooth - kernel 2.6.25-ARCH works like a charm.

I was a bit afraid of ACPI problems, because my notebook has a crappy ACPI-Table - But everything works (Temp monitoring, fan control etc).

peart

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Is anyone having probs with their cd-rom? I get "lost interrupt" errors, and mounting a CD takes forever.  I've googled around, and I can't find any new reports of this kind of problem.

brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

The new iwlwifi hasn't improved my 11a-networks-not-working situation at all. It's really frustrating.

Else: No problems with the new kernel package, it was a smooth upgrade and I encountered no problems.

Try this: http://dev.archlinux.org/~thomas/compat-wireless/
After installation, unload the driver and all mac80211 modules, then load them again.

wuischke

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Thanks for the backport! I have pretty lights now (LED works now), but still I can't find any single 11a network when scanning.

My router is dual band and I am currently connected to the 11g network and pick up a couple of other 11g networks.

With ipw3945 I could connect to 11a without problems, OpenBSD's wpi using the same µcode as iwl doesn't find 11a networks, either. I'm puzzled and have to continue using 11g, whilst the only reason for buying this router was 11a support...

dolby

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

@brain0: can you please get an avatar of some sort? a cool one like mine for instance. its hard keeping track if you want to see what a developer has to say without him having one. all the cool kids do it!

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

@brain0: can you please get an avatar of some sort? a cool one like mine for instance. its hard keeping track if you want to see what a developer has to say without him having one. all the cool kids do it!

here: http://www.testanxietyhypnosis.com/brain0.jpg

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brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

Thanks for the backport! I have pretty lights now (LED works now), but still I can't find any single 11a network when scanning.

My router is dual band and I am currently connected to the 11g network and pick up a couple of other 11g networks.

That's weird, I think I can see 11a networks. However, as they have the same SSID as another 11g network, the driver always prefers the 11g ones. I could try to join the 11a networks by specifying the BSSID explicitly though. I'll try this week.

Yay for the LED though. And don't thank me, thank John Linville and his team

brain0

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

One more question:

+CONFIG_HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT=y
...
+# CONFIG_LATENCYTOP is not set

Why?

I just looked into it:If you enable CONFIG_LATENCYTOP, CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER is also enabled:

CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER:

If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly larger
and slower, but it might give very useful debugging information on
some architectures or if you use external debuggers.
If you don't debug the kernel, you can say N.

I don't think we want that.

bender02

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER:
If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly larger
and slower, but it might give very useful debugging information on
some architectures or if you use external debuggers.
If you don't debug the kernel, you can say N.

I don't think we want that.

Sure we don't, I was just curious - I've read about latencytop on the kernelnewbies webpage.

inf

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Re: 2.6.25 enters [testing]

2.6.25 working superb for me, thanks brain0 for such a quick release