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utore

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Fedora 9 Live

Anyone trying it yet?

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Diaz

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Registered: 2008-04-16

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

just downloaded and installed it in my 2G usb drive. Going to reboot and try it.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-n … SB-Booting

http://ftp.lip6.fr/ftp/pub/linux/distri … /Packages/
download the "livecd-tools-017-1.fc9.i386.rpm", rpmextract it and run the script.

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KimTjik

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Registered: 2007-08-22

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I've installed it on a IBM Netvista (Intel Pentium 2.4GHz) computer. A friend, an older man, has asked me to help him get an cheap computer with something better than Windows 95! Not a particular tricky task: what can possibly be worse than Windows 95?

I haven't had the time to test it thoroughly, but so far it seems just as polished as usual. I haven't encountered any annoying bugs yet (keep in mind that I'm using the Gnome version). Yum works a bit faster; it's up a notch for every release it seems. It might be confusing that Livna homepage doesn't include any official information about version 9 yet, but if searching the repository you'll find the livna-release package ready.

I never upgraded to version 8 (using version 7 x86-64 on a couple of machines), so the integration of Pulse is new to me. Some administration is changed. I got confused at first when I couldn't get the network-manager to get my network connection up and running, but it proved to be that the network-manager is more aimed (if you don't change default settings) at configuring hardware devices, the actual settings are then user controlled, which seems to be a more practical solution.

Probably a lot of folks will scream as usual: "there's no easy way to get mp3 or encrypted dvd working... Fedora sucks as usual", but using Livna is as simple as usual and personally I can't see any issue about this. Fedora play safe, and why blame them.

Overall it looks like a even better release than the previous.

Diaz

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

after playing around a little i have to say that this release is very stable and responsive. I think i never saw a reboot or a login/logout so quick. Bluetooth works well, basic wacom table is identified as usual. The monitor management is good. I just didn't try the webcam, since i though it would come with cheese, but i didnt see it anywhere.

I couldn't mount my other partitions in my hdds, but thats probably something about permissions/policykit... The usb hdd muonted fine. Mp3 support was installed automatically when tried to play a file with totem.

I have yet to try the xen stuff and analize some new features yet.

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utore

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I finally finished downloading the iso (there was almost no network established for the dvd torrent) and installed it in vbox. KDE4 looks nice right out of the box (I'm an Xfce user and haven't bothered with testing any releases), everything seems to work well, though YUM is sluggish (as always?). So far it looks good, I don't get the full functionality that I'm used to when I actually boot into the system from on my hdd, but it's responsive.

View some images of my installation in vbox here:
http://www.nizukka.com/images/screencap … s/fedora9/

At the time of this post, I had just clicked to install firefox3b5 seconds before hitting post. 6 minutes later and firefox started installing.

Last edited by utore (2008-05-14 01:44:33)

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SpookyET

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I really like their x11 boot splash screen. Red Hat Graphical Boot is pretty. We can't even get splashy to properly work on Arch :-(

chicha

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I have tryed it withVirtualbox, having in mind to install it. God bless Virtualbox : I do not want to install it anymore and will (again) stay with Arch.

Here are my feedback :

- Fedora Art (themes, look&feel ...) is beautiful. Since F8 I used their Gnome themes and I will do so again !
- New GDM sounds really great, but still in development. I think am going to wait until a stable release for Arch (was thinking compiling it myself).
- New Xorg : It is said to be faster at boot. Fedora developers helped a lot in this task. But as long as I used VBox I do not think I could fairly give my point of view.
- New Gnome : I am already using it under Arch so no surprise here
- PolicyKit : I am really looking for this technology with Arch. However there is still no end-user documentation and the configuration GUI is messy. This is tipically the place where config files and docs are better.
- PackageKit : I do not like this tool at all. Pacman in a console is the best GUI ever for this kind of tasks, seriously
- Yum : still so slow, and far away from Pacman.

If you do not compare Fedora to Arch I like it very much, however. I think it is a very good distro, and how their community help with upstream projects (Linux, Gnome, Xorg ...) is fantastic !

But as a Distro, I really think Arch is for me more than any other one (at this time)

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schivmeister

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Registered: 2007-05-17

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I'll be installing it into my dad's 8GB thumbdrive, downloading now.

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SpookyET

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I have tryed it withVirtualbox, having in mind to install it. God bless Virtualbox : I do not want to install it anymore and will (again) stay with Arch.

Here are my feedback :

- Fedora Art (themes, look&feel ...) is beautiful. Since F8 I used their Gnome themes and I will do so again !
- New GDM sounds really great, but still in development. I think am going to wait until a stable release for Arch (was thinking compiling it myself).
- New Xorg : It is said to be faster at boot. Fedora developers helped a lot in this task. But as long as I used VBox I do not think I could fairly give my point of view.
- New Gnome : I am already using it under Arch so no surprise here
- PolicyKit : I am really looking for this technology with Arch. However there is still no end-user documentation and the configuration GUI is messy. This is tipically the place where config files and docs are better.
- PackageKit : I do not like this tool at all. Pacman in a console is the best GUI ever for this kind of tasks, seriously
- Yum : still so slow, and far away from Pacman.

If you do not compare Fedora to Arch I like it very much, however. I think it is a very good distro, and how their community help with upstream projects (Linux, Gnome, Xorg ...) is fantastic !

But as a Distro, I really think Arch is for me more than any other one (at this time)

I'm looking forward to the xorg changes. I hope I'll see them in arch as well. The artwork is pretty, except the icons. The RHGB splash is really nice. We can't even splashy to run properly. zypper in suse is much faster than yum. It's similar to pacman in Suse 11. Listing packages can be even faster.

chicha

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I'm looking forward to the xorg changes. I hope I'll see them in arch as well.

Be sure you will have those changes in the next Xorg release (quiet soon). Fedora is not the kind of project which keeps the good work for itself. Almost all the work done on Fedora side is reported and integrated upstream. Even more, many kernel, xorg, gnome ... developers are RedHat employees.

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tesjo

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Registered: 2007-11-30

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I installed, no nvidia support for the xorg is big issue for me. Since nv dosent work quite right for me, had to change 1280x1024, but my lcd is 1680x1050, not to mention 3d stuff. Really I just wanted to see how the default ked4 was working out on Fedora.

chicha

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

Do not blame Fedora for this, but Nvidia ...

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Nikke

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

I have tryed it withVirtualbox, having in mind to install it. God bless Virtualbox : I do not want to install it anymore and will (again) stay with Arch.

Here are my feedback :

- Fedora Art (themes, look&feel ...) is beautiful. Since F8 I used their Gnome themes and I will do so again !
- New GDM sounds really great, but still in development. I think am going to wait until a stable release for Arch (was thinking compiling it myself).
- New Xorg : It is said to be faster at boot. Fedora developers helped a lot in this task. But as long as I used VBox I do not think I could fairly give my point of view.
- New Gnome : I am already using it under Arch so no surprise here
- PolicyKit : I am really looking for this technology with Arch. However there is still no end-user documentation and the configuration GUI is messy. This is tipically the place where config files and docs are better.
- PackageKit : I do not like this tool at all. Pacman in a console is the best GUI ever for this kind of tasks, seriously
- Yum : still so slow, and far away from Pacman.

If you do not compare Fedora to Arch I like it very much, however. I think it is a very good distro, and how their community help with upstream projects (Linux, Gnome, Xorg ...) is fantastic !

But as a Distro, I really think Arch is for me more than any other one (at this time)

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thisllub

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Registered: 2007-12-28

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

Do not blame Fedora for this, but Nvidia ...

I disagree.

Imagine a distro that wouldn't run properly on AMD chips.

The XOrg downgrade is a pain.

I used it for a day after I had some problems with my Arch install that I didn't have time to fix before work.
I had a live cd  in my laptop bag and installed and used that while I was waiting at the airport.

The nv driver gave me a headache.
KDE 4 is pretty flaky too.

Arch is just so much better for me.

pelle.k

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

The XOrg downgrade is a pain.

There is no need to downgrade xorg with nvidia since 173.14.05.

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_Marco_

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

do you know if it's true that fedora 9 use MPX? (which is not yet in an official release of xorg)
http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/
I read this but I cannot find any confirm..

pelle.k

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … slow&num=1

As the X.Org 7.4 cycle drags out, it looks like X.Org 7.5 will turn into a H1'2009 release. X.Org 7.5 will ship with Multi-Pointer X (MPX), X Generic Events, input hotness, and more than likely will be RandR 1.3.

Short answer, no.

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_Marco_

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

wow, I didn't find it... Thanks pelle.k

inf

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Re: Fedora 9 Live

Just switched from Ubuntu to Fedora 9 yesterday, and I can say it was worth it. Fedora just seems snappier (even with my oldish laptopn) compared to Ubuntu. and i also like the straight-out-of-the-install look better, somehow it seems smoother in everything.

The biggest minus is the package manager which is pretty slow sometimes. But kudo for the packagekit integration