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#1 2008-05-15 15:42:35

Razien
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Registered: 2008-05-15
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Boot never ends

Hey guys.

Yesterday i decided to install Arch, on my second HD

It seems to me, that everything went fine, i just skipped the install of grub, because i already have grub on ubuntu. So i just went there and add a line to boot Arch as well.

I reboot the system, and choose Arch, the boot began, and when i was already celebrating, the boot started to "freeze"

It stopped for long times, on ata1, ata2, sd 0, and then after a really long wait he stop on "CD-Rom driver revision: 3.20"

Can someone plz tell me if i did anything wrong? Is it a problem with my HD's? I have no clue o.o
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on sda i have ubuntu hardy installed
sdb1 it's where i installed Arch, sdb2 its swap, and sdb3 /home.
sdc it's my third hd for files, musics, movies...
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If you guys need anything else about the computer or the installation, just say

Thks for the help.

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#2 2008-05-16 01:25:14

Razien
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Re: Boot never ends

Well, thks a lot for the help.

It's great to see that a lot of topics gets answers, and i just get views.
Anyway, i think the problem it's somehow with the HD.

I tried installing Arch alone, with no other HD, but the boot stills takes forever and never loads.  One thing i didn't notice before is that even when running Arch from the cd, the boot takes a lot of time, but at least it works there.

I'll just stay with ubuntu until i have a better pc.

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#3 2008-05-16 01:45:20

Factory
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Re: Boot never ends

My friend was having the same problem. He 'solved' this by switching the boot order, making hard drive first with cd-rom second. Try this.

Razien wrote:

Well, thks a lot for the help.

It's great to see that a lot of topics gets answers, and i just get views.
Anyway, i think the problem it's somehow with the HD.

Er, would you rather those people say "Nope, sorry. I don't know what your problem is"?

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#4 2008-05-16 03:48:00

Razien
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Re: Boot never ends

Yeah o.o
At least i would get some answer, i would know that someone cares, and if he could he would help me.
It's a lot better than seeing 53 views and no answer at all.


What do you mean by switch?
Here i have all the HD's first, and the for last the CD-Rom.

I should put the cd first than the Hd? Is that it?

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#5 2008-05-16 15:40:50

carlocci
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Re: Boot never ends

Nope, sorry. I don't know what your problem is

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#6 2008-05-16 15:46:10

_Marco_
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Re: Boot never ends

please post your menu.lst (of ubuntu)  and "fdisk -l" output ..

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#7 2008-05-16 18:25:53

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Re: Boot never ends

Factory wrote:

My friend was having the same problem. He 'solved' this by switching the boot order, making hard drive first with cd-rom second. Try this.

He means to enter BIOS and change boot order to hdd first and cdrom second.


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#8 2008-05-16 19:00:00

czar
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Re: Boot never ends

Razien wrote:

Well, thks a lot for the help.

It's great to see that a lot of topics gets answers, and i just get views.
Anyway, i think the problem it's somehow with the HD.

ironically, by replying to your own thread you actually decreased your chances of getting a helpful response! many people look for threads which have 0 replies to help out first. By that logic, asking other people to make the first reply with "i  have no idea" is also a dumb idea!
goodluck, and nobody owes you anything!

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#9 2008-05-16 20:52:36

Dheart
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Re: Boot never ends

Also you might add your menu.lst, fdisk -l and where does the boot freeze, anything like last lines?


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#10 2008-05-20 16:34:53

Razien
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Re: Boot never ends

After a few days away I'm back.

So, here is my grub on ubuntu - just the end of it-

## ## End Default Options ##

title        Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=db885a2a-34b3-43b3-abdd-2aa7c6b61566 ro quiet splash vga=773
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=db885a2a-34b3-43b3-abdd-2aa7c6b61566 ro single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic

title        Ubuntu 8.04, memtest86+
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

# (0) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux  [/boot/vmlinuz26]
root   (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hdb ro vga=773
initrd /boot/kernel26.img

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

And this is the menu.lst from the grub Arch installed

root (hd0,0)
Kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hda3 ro
initrd  /initrd26img

Ahh now i see that it's missing the /boot o.o
I guess.

Oh and I dont know how to use this "fdisk -l"  my guess is that i need to tell what HD to look, but i dont know how to do that.

Anyway.
The HD is located on sdc and I used the auto configure mode when installing ubuntu, that said I have this HD "broken" into the four parts that were made during the install.
    * swap
    * boot
    * /
    * /home

The order of my drivers are that
    * HD1 - master - ubuntu
    * CD ROM - slave
    * HD2 - master - files
    * HD3 - slave - Arch


As where the boot stops, i said at the begin of the topic,

It stopped for long times, on ata1, ata2, sd 0, and then after a really long wait he stop on "CD-Rom driver revision: 3.20"

I was taking a look at all the messages that appear on screen, it seems he tries to create the root device, or something like that.

My grub must be all wrong =\

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#11 2008-05-20 16:47:44

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Re: Boot never ends

Here's a pretty good GRUB resource. You may want to study it to get you a better understanding which will leave you equipped to properly configure your box smile : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … er-237511/

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#12 2008-05-24 17:47:53

Razien
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Re: Boot never ends

Disco /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc5f0c5f0

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sda1   *           1        2331    18723726   83  Linux
/dev/sda2            2332        2438      859477+   5  Estendida
/dev/sda5            2332        2438      859446   82  Linux swap / Solaris

Disco /dev/sdb: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00054c65

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sdb1               1        2434    19551073+  83  Linux

Disco /dev/sdc: 10.1 GB, 10110320640 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1229 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x73f973f9

Dispositivo Boot Início Fim Blocos Id Sistema
/dev/sdc1   *           1           6       48194+  83  Linux
/dev/sdc2               7          72      530145   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdc3              73         646     4610655   83  Linux
/dev/sdc4             647        1229     4682947+  83  Linux

Hehe i find out that i need the root permission to use this one ^^
There it is, the last HD is the one with ARCH.

Sdc3 is /
Sdc4 is /home

I've edited the grub to that

root=/dev/sdc3 ro vga=773

But it always say that it can't find the root device.
(sorry for my bad english)


I was looking in the /dev folder, and i find out that IT'S EMPTY!! Well nearly empty, it only have these files:
-console
-null
-zero

Ohhh man, i dont get o.o
What have i did wrong x.x

Ohh here is my fstab, in case it helps.

# 
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# <file system>        <dir>         <type>    <options>          <dump> <pass>
none                   /dev/pts      devpts    defaults            0      0
none                   /dev/shm      tmpfs     defaults            0      0

/dev/cdrom             /mnt/cd   iso9660   ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
/dev/dvd               /mnt/dvd  udf       ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
#/dev/fd0               /mnt/fl   vfat      user,noauto             0      0

#swap
UUID=1554de60-50c0-437c-8c3d-f94a3159c60e    none    swap    sw    0    0
#HD's
#/dev/sdc3
UUID=2b48e50d-dd5c-496c-b214-fbdee73e3b39       /    ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro    0    1
#/dev/sdc4
UUID=2556ca41-461d-43ad-8eb5-1a7dacddf77e   /home    ext3    user,errors=remount-ro    0    2

Last edited by Razien (2008-05-25 14:51:46)

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#13 2008-05-26 01:07:23

Razien
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Registered: 2008-05-15
Posts: 34

Re: Boot never ends

Thanks for the support guys.

I decided to install everything again, since that even without the problem that boot was taking way too much time.

So this time i started with "ide-legacy" option, and installed everything again.
After some spending my all day with that i finally managed to boot up.

Uhuuuu \o/


I guess my old setup, wasn't 100% =p
Anyway, now it's working, and boots really fast, im upgrading now, and still gotta find out what to do next.

Bye bye

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#14 2008-05-26 01:31:06

B-Con
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Re: Boot never ends

Razien wrote:

Well, thks a lot for the help.

It's great to see that a lot of topics gets answers, and i just get views.
Anyway, i think the problem it's somehow with the HD.

I tried installing Arch alone, with no other HD, but the boot stills takes forever and never loads.  One thing i didn't notice before is that even when running Arch from the cd, the boot takes a lot of time, but at least it works there.

I'll just stay with ubuntu until i have a better pc.

For future reference, you might try waiting more than 9.5 hours before whining. Some people have been asleep the entire time you "waited".

Last edited by B-Con (2008-05-26 01:32:55)

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#15 2008-05-26 01:36:41

Razien
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Posts: 34

Re: Boot never ends

For future reference, you might try waiting more than 9.5 hours before whining. Some people have been asleep the entire time you "waited".

Well that's odd o.o
I'm sure i waited way more than just 9hrs...

1 or 2 days.

Am I getting crazy?
Whatever, problem solved.


Sorry if you guys get upset for my reply ^^'

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